[Fed-Talk] OS X Lion Server - Unix Servers That Do Not Work TB
[Fed-Talk] OS X Lion Server - Unix Servers That Do Not Work TB
- Subject: [Fed-Talk] OS X Lion Server - Unix Servers That Do Not Work TB
- From: "Pike, Michael (IHS/HQ)" <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 11:55:24 -0400
- Acceptlanguage: en-US
- Thread-topic: OS X Lion Server - Unix Servers That Do Not Work TB
This is my own technology brief… I posted a lengthy message last night, but thankfully I typo'd the email address and it bounced back, I will leave a more tame version of the message now.
So aside from the WEBDAV issues not working (which I was able to fix manually), guess what else doesn't work in OS X Lion Server?
SIMPLE stuff, that should work, and almost proves apple didn't test anything on OS X Lion Server.
It's one thing if Apple wants to get out of enterprise, why don't they just tell us? Why release a substandard, untested, almost unusable out of the box server platform? Believe it or not there were some people (us included) that used OS X Server for production services.
I challenge you to get multi-homing to work on OS X Server Lion… it won't… I fought with it for two days… and only because I had made the stupid, idiotic assumption that Apple would actually modify the httpd.conf files to accommodate multi homing considering the fact they have it as options in the server application.
I am putting together a document and will put it on a public cloud drive that explains how to make Lion actually be a real server based on the experiences I have had…
But for the record, to get multi homing to work, you have to manually go in and edit httpd.conf…. a simple addition to the first line of:
NameVirtualHost *:80
to the first line in /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
That fixed the multi-homing issue.
Secure certificates still are not working correctly (I'll tackle that one next)…
But let me ask someone from apple this question:
HOW did something THIS BASIC, and THIS CRITICAL get through any type of testing? This is basically Apache basic admin stuff.
This kind of quality (or lack thereof) makes me question if Lion Server is doing ANYTHING that it claims to be? Anyone got APN to work on it? I doubt it… anyone got multiple SSL sites to work? (not unless you add the above line you didn't) and then does the apache server have the configuration necessary to use more than one SSL site? Who knows…. Is it really backing everything up with Time Machine?
I remember a time when CNN, Yahoo, Federal Computer Week magazine and about 15 others interviewed me (I think it was 2004) and I had made the remarks of how we switched to OS X Server with XSERVE and MySQL from a Windows / Cache database environment and realized immediate speed and reliability increases…
If those same outlets asked me again today I would have to say that OS X Server is no longer a server… it doesn't do the most basic of tasks, and if you do not know the inside of Unix (conf file editing, Apache, MySQL installations, etc) that OS X Lion Server is little more than a waste of $49 for things you can install free and do the same amount of configuration by installing things individually from the respective websites and authors.
Don't get me wrong, Lion Workstation is great, I love my iOS devices, but this Server is a joke… if Apple wants out of Server markets, why even release one?
Anyhow, for those of us who still want to use it (and it's only because I wasted money on Mac Pro systems for server tasks), by the end of the week I'll have a guide of my experiences and how to fix everything that does not work in OS X Lion that I've run into…
Multi-homing? You have + marks to add sites… it's obviously supposed to be supported.
I'd love to see someone who is actually running an OS X Server farm (as I was before I came back to federal) see how they deal with Lion Server… Apple should really release Snow Leopard Server as a free OS if you buy the $49 POS Lion Server for those who need something that actually works…
Mike
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