Re: [Fed-Talk] "Lion" preview notes
Re: [Fed-Talk] "Lion" preview notes
- Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] "Lion" preview notes
- From: "Link, Peter R." <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 08:36:22 -0800
- Acceptlanguage: en-US
- Thread-topic: [Fed-Talk] "Lion" preview notes
Mike,
I'm sorry you are having such a bad year. Things change and you either deal with the change or you don't. I would like to have seen Apple's product line go in a slightly different direction but I can deal with what's going on. I'm definitely not ready to jump ship to Windows, Linux or even whatever someone thinks Android actually is at any given moment on any given device.
Couple things:
1. News about a major FCP upgrade has been hitting the web. This is an application that Apple has to carefully upgrade since so many commercial movie houses use it. You can't mess with their production stream like you can with the typical home user.
2. "Controlling" isn't always bad, especially if you understand what is being controlled and how it's being controlled. I like the App Store, in fact I'm using it right now to download the ADC developer version of OSX Lion. For the home user, it allows me to purchase an application and easily install it on up to five computers. My serial numbers are locked inside my account in the App Store (I know, big brother, but I can deal with that) so they're always there, instead of losing them in a drawer full of paperwork.
3. I doubt high-priced applications, or should I say overpriced, will ever be sold through the App Store. It isn't a requirement, at least no yet, and I doubt Apple will force applications to "only" be purchased and installed through the App Store.
4. FaceTime beta was what you were using and it was free until finalized. I'm sure Apple said that on their web site. If you can't pony up a measly $1, then don't buy it.
5. "More open" is one of those funny phrases that never mean anything. Android on phones is not open, at least not the way open-source packages can be. I don't mind the "limited" number of controlled applications that are available for the iPhone. There are plenty for me and they are vetted so I can be a bit more confident that I won't be installing a piece of malware on my phone.
Good luck with your numerous changes. I wish you well (seriously).
On Feb 24, 2011, at 8:17 AM, Pike, Michael (IHS/HQ) wrote:
> It really is too bad... Out of all the server Os's I have ever maintained,
> OS X was the most reliable and the easiest to manage.
>
> In my opinion Apple is catering only to the "common" user, someone who
> doesn¹t care what a terminal window is or want to run their own servers.
> In fact, it is almost as if they want users with no brains that make
> FaceBook entries.
>
> They get more controlling with every release, and I honestly believe it is
> going to get to the point where EVERYTHING must go through them, whether
> it be on iOS devices or their computing platform.
>
> People like Adobe are not going to want to give 30% of a $5000 suite to
> them... Apple's equivalent apps are not being updated (look at the old
> interface with Final Cut vs. CS5).
>
> FaceTime, which was free is now $1.00 - Apple has said FaceTime is an open
> standard yet I cannot find a single spec on it.
>
> Windows sucks, OS X is going the way "we decide everything for you",
> Linux, while stable doesn't offer the refined UI.
>
> I've loved Apple, so much in fact I put my career on the lines many times
> for them in the past (which I will never do again)... Apple has been great
> for me, in fact I'm so loyal (or was), that every automobile I own has
> customized license plates (Apple, iPad, iPhone)... The iPhone changed my
> life.
>
> Within the last 4 months I've been touting Android devices... My Nexus S I
> love more than any iPhone when it's a pure google OS.
>
> It feels like I am losing a long time friend, but I cannot stick by
> something that continues to get more controlling, less open, etc...
>
> Google's desktop OS is lacking right now, but then again so was Android
> 1.0 - look at Android 2.3 GingerBread, it runs rings around iOS (not by
> fault of iOS or the iOS hardware, but by fault of Apple not letting
> developers do anything outside of the box).
>
> I am hoping that Google's Desktop OS advances to the point that the mobile
> platform has.
>
> I used to push people to iPhone, now when they ask I hand them a Nexus S
> and say "This will do WHATEVER you want."
>
> Come on, iOS you cannot even delete a single (one at a time) entry in your
> call log, it's all or nothing! Write an app to try and fix that, Apple
> won't let you.
>
> I know this is an Apple mailing list... And I had a thread of hope Lion
> would not cripple the user even more so than iOS... I guess I am saying
> this because it truly is time for me to let go, to quit trying to get
> Apple in our agency, and now I get to go eat a hot steamy pile of dung as
> I tell them I need a Dell Blade with Ubuntu.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> On 2/24/11 8:10 AM, "Dave Schroeder" <email@hidden> wrote:
>
>> Unless of course server components are de-emphasiszed and/or
>> discontinued, which is likely to be the case. Maybe this strategy and
>> with the product provides will be great for SOHO and small departmental
>> type customers, but bad for enterprise-wide applications. Of course,
>> Apple's move away from that space is clear, and with the Xserve
>> discontinued, we had no choice but to end-of-life Mac OS X Server as a
>> supported OS in our datacenters.
>>
>> - Dave
>>
>> On Feb 24, 2011, at 9:00 AM, Joel Esler wrote:
>>
>>> Sounds like a consolidation move to me. Simplicity in product line.
>>>
>>> I see no ill effects here.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> Forgive my misspellings and briefness
>>>
>>> On Feb 24, 2011, at 9:57 AM, David Emery <email@hidden> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm going to be very interested to see what that really means. On the
>>>> plus side, I hope it means I don't have to pay $500 each for my 2 Mini
>>>> Servers to upgrade. On the minus side, I hope this does not reflect a
>>>> move by Apple away from its server product.
>>>>
>>>> dave
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 24, 2011, at 9:51 AM, Dave Schroeder wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 24, 2011, at 8:40 AM, David Emery wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://news.worldofapple.com/archives/2011/02/24/apple-releases-mac-os
>>>>>> -x-lion-preview
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm excited about full-disk encryption, the one practical concern
>>>>>> I've heard from my IT people about my Mac-based infrastructure. I
>>>>>> hope this is also available for OS X Server. (But recovering a
>>>>>> corrupted whole-encrypted disk could be a real challenge, let's hope
>>>>>> the Disk Warrior folks step up to this challenge.)
>>>>>
>>>>> "Lion Server is now a part of Mac OS X Lion"
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.apple.com/macosx/lion/
>>>>>
>>>>> - Dave
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> David Emery, 703 298 3473 (c) 703 272 7496 (fax)
>>>> Supporting PdM Software Integration
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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