Re: [Fed-Talk] What? No IPad2 Talk?
Re: [Fed-Talk] What? No IPad2 Talk?
- Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] What? No IPad2 Talk?
- From: Mark <email@hidden>
- Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 21:33:53 +0000
You are correct when discussing those two devices. However, my rant was about the iphone 4. "Facetime as implemented on iphone4". I would really like to know Apple's thoughts as to why they don't allow the use of AppleID on the iphone.
On Mar 6, 2011, at 9:19 PM, Boyd Fletcher wrote:
> Neither my Mac nor my iPod touch have cellular (and thus sms) and FaceTime works with both. It does not require SMS to function.
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> Boyd Fletcher
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> On Mar 6, 2011, at 12:43, Mark <email@hidden> wrote:
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>> Sorry, but yes it does use SMS. This sets up the activation / reservation. Please see http://theiphonewiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Facetime
>>
>> Cheers
>> - Mark
>>
>> On Mar 6, 2011, at 2:58 PM, Boyd Fletcher wrote:
>>
>>> Joel, you are correct. FaceTime doesn't use SMS. It uses https, xmpp, sip and stun. SMS is a cellular technology. FaceTime runs over wifi although technically it could run over 3G since 3G is IP based but apple/AT&T/Verizon won't let it because of b/w concerns.
>>>
>>> http://www.paloaltonetworks.com/researchcenter/2010/08/whats-appening-with-apple-facetime/
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>>> Boyd Fletcher
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>>> On Mar 6, 2011, at 6:38, Joel Esler <email@hidden> wrote:
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>>>> SMS? I didnt think FaceTime used SMS. What am I missing here? FaceTime is a wifi thing.
>>>>
>>>> Use Skype.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> Please excuse the brevity
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 5, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Mark <email@hidden> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> <rant>
>>>>> Facetime as implemented on iphone4 just blows due to its dependency on sms. The Mac and ipod Touch versions both utilize the AppleID. What business decision caused them to be different with the iphone?
>>>>>
>>>>> I am lucky enough to be stationed oconus. Unlucky that my family is unable to join me for the past 10 months with 4 more to go till they can. I purchased an unlocked iphone from the local Apple Store, sent it home. Facetime worked daily, even multiple times daily as promised for a month. Then, it stops.
>>>>>
>>>>> It was wonderful to see and talk with my family. Troubleshooting, Google showed folks saying it shouldn't have worked because T-Mobile isn't an officially supported carrier. I call that a BS reason as the thing worked for a month. My son went out and purchased the ipod touch so at least now we can video chat across the ocean again and he can stop bugging his mom for her iphone to listen to music.
>>>>>
>>>>> Apple, remove the stupid dependency of sms for Facetime on the iphone and let me just use my AppleID.
>>>>> </rant>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 4, 2011, at 11:47 PM, Joel Esler wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Cameras were dumb at the time I think. Facetime changed that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike -- face it, you are a hater. Or at least not an Apple-liker.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As for cameras, I've said it here, and I'll say it again, cameras are restricted in /certain/ environments. Not all. I have plenty a friend that works for .gov/.mil that I use iChat with all the time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> J
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2011, at 2:27 PM, Villano, Paul Mr CIV USA TRADOC wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just because you say something doesn't make it true. Hater. :o)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I fully admit Apple is playing catch-up. As I said before, if you look up my posts from last year you'll see me whining about no cameras and peple saying how dumb cameras would be. Now everyone has or wants them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The winning edge with the IPad is the huge amount of apps. When Android catches up we'll talk. Hater. :o)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Pike, Michael (IHS/HQ)" <email@hidden>
>>>>>>> Date: Friday, March 4, 2011 14:21
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] What? No IPad2 Talk?
>>>>>>> To: "Villano, Paul Mr CIV USA TRADOC" <email@hidden>, Mac Federal <email@hidden>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm not being a hater but my samsung galaxy tab has had front and
>>>>>>>> rear cameras for months.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And it runs android.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've developed for both and there is something "magical " about
>>>>>>>> writing an application and having it approved right away as
>>>>>>>> opposed to apple telling me what I can and can't do.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I was very unimpressed with the ipad 2 although apple promotes it
>>>>>>>> like its the first dual processor device with magical and
>>>>>>>> revolutionary cameras.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You asked :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>> Sent from my Google Nexus S
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Villano, Paul Mr CIV USA TRADOC" < wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm confused. I thought for sure the list would be rampant during the Apple presentation and since on talk of Ipad2 and the implications for government. But (unless I've missed it) have seen nothing. Why? (And don't say what the "haters" are sayig that there's not much change, because the cameras themselves...And you remember my saying how much they were missing on the original, right?...make it a game changer, at least for Feds.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We are about to start developing apps for Iphone (and eventually Ipad) so I'm anxious to hear any pro's or cons and anything else I can learn about updates in OS, hardware, and their impact.
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>>>>>> Joel Esler
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