Re: [Fed-Talk] Apple Wiki Server
Re: [Fed-Talk] Apple Wiki Server
- Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Apple Wiki Server
- From: William Cerniuk <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 19:07:03 -0500
If you intend to use the wiki as a publishing method of producing a web page, the Apple wiki is not the way to go, concur. If on the other hand, your intention is to build an easy to use collaboration system where true "live documents" exist, then most definitely the Apple solution is what I would recommend.
The Apple wiki system under Snow Leopard was not as well designed as it is now under Lion but considering the Lion wiki is 1.0 and Snow Leopard's is beyond 2 if not 3 significant revisions, the Lion wiki is a better product.
The key thing to keep in mind is that it is not the technical sophistication nor a massive capability that makes a wiki tool successful, it is the ability for average tech-nots to get in and use it ... and potentially do so without documentation. A wiki that is used-less is by definition use-less.
To its credit, the Apple wiki under Lion has a elegant interface for both the server admin, the individual wiki admins and the wiki users. The Apple wiki has a number of end user 'killer features' combined with that Apple ease of use making it a "sleeper". It is definitely worth a strong look, especially considering the price. You can easily start with $500 server, add 12TB of space for roughly $2500 and move into a xSAN configuration at will (xSAN is built into Lion). I wonder if single mini could cost effectivally host 72TB given the currently available thunderbolt storage solutions. (6x12TB)...
Our Apple wiki system under Snow Leopard currently hosts over 50GB of documents, probably in the range of 2,500 documents if I had to guess without looking. There are around 200 wikis in the main wiki server.
Best, Wm.
On Jan 31, 2012, at 3:45 PM, Roy Mendelssohn <email@hidden> wrote:
> Thanks to all who replied. I was looking at the Bitnami Stack and it looked very easy to use. We also may just develop a regular web page, which would make this moot.
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> -Roy
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> On Jan 31, 2012, at 12:33 PM, Moore, Dallas T. wrote:
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>> Roy,
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>> Walter is correct – vendors tend to add “enhancements” to vendor-centric solutions… which winds up locking you in a vendor eco/support system.
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>> Personally, if you’re looking for an easy to deploy and quickly configurable open source Wiki – check out the various BitNami packages.
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>> From: fed-talk-bounces+dallas.t.moore=email@hidden [mailto:fed-talk-bounces+dallas.t.moore=email@hidden] On Behalf Of Rowe, Walter
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 12:06 PM
>> To: email@hidden
>> Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Apple Wiki Server
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>> As with vendor-based solutions, if there is even a remote chance you will need to port it to another platform then better to not use the vendor-centric solution to begin with. MediaWiki and most other open source CMS systems are much more portable than the ones provided by vendors like Apple and Microsoft. Vendors tend to "enhance" the open source tools, making it more difficult to move them later (on purpose to tie you to their platform in my opinion).
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>> Walter Rowe, System Hosting
>> Enterprise Systems / OISM
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>> On Jan 31, 2012, at 11:33 AM, Roy Mendelssohn wrote:
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>> Hi All:
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>> I may be setting up a wiki for a project, and I was thinking of using the Apple Wiki Server. However, it is possible down the line that I will have to transfer the Wiki to another site, likely non-Apple. Does anyone have an idea or experience of how portable an Apple Wiki site is, say to MediaWiki. If it isn't very portable, any tips on setting up MediaWiki on a Snow Leopard Server.
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>> Thanks,
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>> -Roy
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