Re: [Fed-Talk] iOS 6 maps...
Re: [Fed-Talk] iOS 6 maps...
- Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] iOS 6 maps...
- From: "Moore, Dallas T." <email@hidden>
- Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 13:03:12 +0000
- Thread-topic: [Fed-Talk] iOS 6 maps...
He wasn't saying that it's available on the 3GS, just that the 3GS has the technical capability to run Siri.
v/r
Dallas Moore, CISSP
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Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 7:36 AM
To: Mike Pike
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Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] iOS 6 maps...
Siri works on 3GS...how?
On Sep 25, 2012, at 4:15 PM, Mike Pike wrote:
> It's ingenious marketing under apple. Siri will work on everything back to the 3GS but apple makes people upgrade.
>
> Same with MMS when it came out.
>
> I think Samsung is making fun of the fact even though these devices can do things, apple deprives the end user and makes them upgrade.
>
> I've been at every launch and I praise apple, as well as bad mouth on a case by case basis.
>
> iOS 6 is lackluster, and the iPhone 5, while nicer on the inside and out is little more than a 4S with a larger screen.
>
> Panoramic camera apps work on the 4S just fine.
>
> Having said that I am the hypocrite that has an iPhone 5. I got mine in the mail but STILL went to our apple store the night before release to talk to people in the line for an hour or so. (Plus I am somewhat of a local celebrity here for my apps and its cool to see and talk to users who love the iPhone).
>
> If I had not been so entwined with apple (movies, apps, music, the iTunes Eco system) I would probably choose the SIII over the iPhone. It does some pretty cool stuff. Watch the ad.
>
> Samsung makes great stuff (including the A6 in the iPhone 5 although apples design).
>
> If Lucy Koh grants apple's request to ban the SIII (even though it plainly is an innovation over iPhone and not a copy) then the world will be a less exciting place. The Samsung phones are the only true level competitor to apple in my opinion. And banning their product will hurt innovation.
>
> Sent from my iPhone 5
>
> On Sep 25, 2012, at 1:59 PM, Dave Schroeder <email@hidden> wrote:
>
>> Apple is not, and never (when it has been successful, anyway) has been, about who has the better specs, more features, etc. It's about the user experience. Samsung knows this, Google knows this, and every objective observer of the computing landscape knows this. Without Apple and the very specific and measured strategies Apple used to roll out the iPhone (single carrier, no "apps" at first, etc.), we would NOT have the smartphone ecosystem we do today, and all of those Android users would be using hopelessly locked down Treos, Nokias, or other utter garbage.
>>
>> - Dave
>>
>> On Sep 25, 2012, at 11:16 AM, "Villano, Paul Mr CIV USA TRADOC" <email@hidden> wrote:
>>
>>> I hate to say it but that latest Galaxy IIIS commercial with the
>>> Apple fanboys on line waiting for everything the GIIS folks were
>>> using already really hit a nerve. Too close to truth. (Although I
>>> hate to admit I'm the parents' age.)
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: fed-talk-bounces+paul.villano=email@hidden
>>> [mailto:fed-talk-bounces+paul.villano=email@hidden]
>>> On Behalf Of Mike Pike
>>> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 6:02 PM
>>> To: Blackmon, Jerry (NIH/NHGRI) [C]
>>> Cc: email@hidden
>>> Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] iOS 6 maps...
>>>
>>> I don't think this situation is a matter of what would Steve do, but a matter of "don't ship substandard crap".
>>>
>>> The truth of the matter (in my opinion anyhow) is that this is the most lackluster iOS yet. But in Apple's defense, how much more can you improve? Now it comes down to interface elements because for the most part all high end phones do the same things in different ways.
>>>
>>> I saw a jail broke 4S on Saturday with an interface that blew my mind. The icons swirled on and off the screen. If apple allowed mainstream stuff like that on the phone without a hack they'd hands down be the best experience.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone 5
>>>
>>> On Sep 24, 2012, at 3:29 PM, "Blackmon, Jerry (NIH/NHGRI) [C]" <email@hidden> wrote:
>>>
>>>> “Among his last advice he had for me, and for all of you, was to never ask what he would do. ‘Just do what’s right,’” Cook said. Jobs wanted Apple to avoid the trap that Walt Disney Co. (DIS)<http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/DIS:US> fell into after the death of its iconic founder, Cook said, where “everyone spent all their time thinking and talking about what Walt would do.”
>>>>
>>>> The man was a sage.
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> Jerry
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 24, 2012, at 5:17 PM, "Mike Pike" <email@hidden<mailto:email@hidden>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I don't think anyone is saying Steve Jobs would not have eventually moved to Maps, but he definitely wouldn't have let it ship in this way...
>>>>
>>>> He would have waited for it to be perfected... probably leaving Google on there.
>>>>
>>>> If Apple really wanted turn by turn directions, there are quite a few that do a GREAT job... my personal favorite is MotionX - and the variety of personalities you can use for the voice.
>>>>
>>>> I am quite sure any of the GPS companies would sell themselves to Apple for a song compared to the nightmare Apple is now undergoing because of the Maps app.
>>>>
>>>> We have news stations saying to avoid it for now... although, as someone said, there are other turn by turn apps out there. Personally, I NEVER used Google Maps.. I paid $10 for a year of turn by turn to MotionX...
>>>>
>>>> Now I have Maps... and in our market, if I had followed it's directions to my house I would have ended up in a ditch about a block away from my house (which will probably be the next Samsung ad)...
>>>>
>>>> Siri, while not perfect, is DAMN good.. It is the best AI I have "seen"... although I do not own a new Android device to see how far Google has come.
>>>>
>>>> I'm fairly certain Steve would not have let this ship... and a lot of people probably would have been fired...
>>>>
>>>> Even the demo shown with Maps were mockups but represented as life like.
>>>>
>>>> In regards to MobileMe.... MobileMe if you think about it was really cool... it was just handled wrong...
>>>>
>>>> For those of you who do not know, MobileMe was CONTRACTED out to third party developers. I actually knew one - didn't even work for Apple but developed the entire web interface we saw.... I'm sure on a small scale MobileMe worked great when Steve approved it - after it went south is probably the start of iCloud...
>>>>
>>>> And in closing, Apple didn't even want to start from scratch with iCloud... Steve Jobs personally met with the founder of DropBox and asked him to join Apple... DropBox guy said no... Steve said, "we are going to compete with you and win."
>>>>
>>>> So far that hasn't happened... I've lost more data in iCloud documents than DropBox has users... DropBox works perfect... followed by SkyDrive (in my usage anyhow).
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 24, 2012, at 1:37 PM, Rowe, Walter wrote:
>>>>
>>>> In case no one took the opportunity to actually read the link I sent, the past paragraph said Jobs would have made this move too. Apple wants turn-by-turn navigation and Google won't license it via the API. That is a differentiator for Android vs iOS since Google owns Android. Given that Apple could not get Google to license turn-by-turn navigation, Apple had to go their own way eventually in order to get that feature and compete with Android.
>>>>
>>>> One not-so-secret reason Apple built its own Maps for iOS
>>>> 6<http://www.tuaw.com/2012/09/23/one-not-so-secret-reason-apple-bui
>>>> lt-
>>>> its-own-maps-for-ios-6-tal/>
>>>>
>>>> Walter
>>>> --
>>>> Walter Rowe, Hosting Services
>>>> Enterprise Systems / OISM
>>>> Email: email@hidden<mailto:email@hidden>
>>>> Work: 301-975-2885
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 24, 2012, at 2:13 PM, "Marcus, Allan B" <email@hidden<mailto:email@hidden>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You do have a choice. There are a number of free and commercial map
>>>> programs you can get for iOS.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Allan Marcus
>>>> 505-667-5666
>>>> email@hidden<mailto:email@hidden>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9/24/12 10:44 AM, "Mike Pike" <email@hidden<mailto:email@hidden>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Wouldn't have been released under Steve Jobs's watch.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not a maps users but wow.... They should have given a choice.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone 5
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