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Re: [Fed-Talk] Shawn Geddis, Can you help a brother out? issue: Macs at my office are going away because PIV/CAC authorization not supported at boot up i.e. like bitlocker.
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Re: [Fed-Talk] Shawn Geddis, Can you help a brother out? issue: Macs at my office are going away because PIV/CAC authorization not supported at boot up i.e. like bitlocker.


  • Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Shawn Geddis, Can you help a brother out? issue: Macs at my office are going away because PIV/CAC authorization not supported at boot up i.e. like bitlocker.
  • From: "Miller, Timothy J." <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 17:25:44 +0000
  • Thread-topic: [Fed-Talk] Shawn Geddis, Can you help a brother out? issue: Macs at my office are going away because PIV/CAC authorization not supported at boot up i.e. like bitlocker.

That's native.  There are 3rd party solutions with smartcard preboot support.
E.g., and this is not a product endorsement:
https://secure-disk-for-bitlocker.com/features/#smart-card-support-for-bitlocker

-- T

On 6/20/18, 11:20 AM, "Fed-talk on behalf of Levine, Jason (NIH/NCI) [E]"
<fed-talk-bounces+tmiller=email@hidden on behalf of
email@hidden> wrote:

    But... how? Again, all documentation I can find (I've re-checked since my
earlier email) says that BitLocker does *not* support pre-boot authentication
with smartcards... it only allows smartcard decryption for removable drives and
non-system data drives (e.g., smartcard decryption *after* the full OS has
loaded, and critically, has loaded full support for the smartcard
driver/support stack).

    Jason


    Jason Levine, email@hidden
    NCI CCR Associate Director for IT & Clinical Informatics
    NCI CCR Pediatric Oncology Branch
    (240) 276-5557

    On 6/20/18, 12:04 PM, "Jacob, Raymond A Jr. CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
59530" <email@hidden> wrote:

        pre-boot
        >> Are you using PIV at bitlocker pre-boot environment <<

        -----Original Message-----
        From: Lamb, John (NIH/NIDCD) [E] [mailto:email@hidden]
        Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 11:05 AM
        To: Jacob, Raymond A Jr. CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 59530
<email@hidden>
        Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [Fed-Talk] Shawn Geddis, Can you help a
brother out? issue: Macs at my office are going away because PIV/CAC
authorization not supported at boot up i.e. like bitlocker.

        Are you using PIV at bitlocker pre-boot environment, or are they
allowing pre-boot bypass and relying on PIV login at the windows login window?
Because... that’s less secure than FV2 + PIV login at login window.

        Thanks!

        John Lamb
        IT Specialist (Information Security)
        Information Systems Management Branch
        National Institute on Deafness and Other Communication Disorders
        240-688-7017
        email@hidden
        http://www.nidcd.nih.gov

        On 6/20/18, 10:55 AM, "Jacob, Raymond A Jr. CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
59530" <email@hidden> wrote:

            Shawn:
                Macs at my office are going away because PIV/CAC authorization
not supported at boot up i.e. like bitlocker.

            New Girl help a brotha out
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7szxqhSCgOw

            Thank you
            Raymond

            PS: I think the next battle front is TPM vs SEP but that fight is
for another day.

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