January 2006 - Installer-dev

Gestalt check for OS version is failing on Intel Macs
by Mark Krenek 20 Jan '06

20 Jan '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com <key>IFRequirementDicts</key> <array> <dict> <key>LabelKey</key> <string>OS Version</string> <key>Level</key> <string>requires</string> <key>MessageKey</key> <string>messagekey0</string> <key>SpecArgument</key> <string>sysv</string> <key>SpecType</key> <string>gestalt</string> <key>TestObject</key> <string>4152</string> <key>TestOperator</key> <string>>=</string> <key>TitleKey</key> <string>titlekey0</string> </dict> </array> _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I'm using a gestalt requirement key in my installer to check for 10.3.8 or later. This has worked fine until 10.4.4 on Intel Macs. On these new Intel Macs, the Installer fails the Gestalt check. 10.4.4 on PPC Macs work just fine. Anyone have any ideas? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: iceberg...invisible files [RESOLVED!]
by don montalvo 18 Jan '06

18 Jan '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com [the author of "iceberg" responded to my post privately...posting it here for everyone to benefit from. thanks! don] On mercredi, janvier 18, 2006, at 01:09 AM, Don Montalvo wrote: > i created a suitcase client installer. the problem i ran into is that > iceberg doesn't "see" invisible files. i needed to include the: > > /Users/Shared/.SC110 > > ...serial number in the installer. what i did was i first removed the > period from the filename to make it visible, then i > post-process-scripted a mv from the "SC110" name to the ".SC110" name > to make it invisible again. ugly but it works. > > is there a way to get iceberg to "see" invisible files? i have to > create an extensis portfolio installer that also uses an invisible > serial number file. would rather not go the ugly route if i can get > iceberg to see the files that need to be included in the installer. On Mac OS X 10.2 and earlier, you can do that easily since invisible files are "visible" in the Add Files... dialog. On Mac OS X 10.3 and later, you can do that this way: 1. Choose Archive > Add Files... 2. Type Command + Shift + G to display the Go to sheet/dialog 3. Type the absolute path of the invisible file 4. Click Go/OK. You're done. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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iceberg...invisible files
by Don Montalvo 18 Jan '06

18 Jan '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com /Users/Shared/.SC110 thanks, don -- don montalvo curmudgeon at large 917-559-5713 donmontalvo(a)mac.com http://donmontalvo.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… i created a suitcase client installer. the problem i ran into is that iceberg doesn't "see" invisible files. i needed to include the: ...serial number in the installer. what i did was i first removed the period from the filename to make it visible, then i post-process-scripted a mv from the "SC110" name to the ".SC110" name to make it invisible again. ugly but it works. is there a way to get iceberg to "see" invisible files? i have to create an extensis portfolio installer that also uses an invisible serial number file. would rather not go the ugly route if i can get iceberg to see the files that need to be included in the installer. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: documentation for Installer plugins?
by Peter Bierman 17 Jan '06

17 Jan '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com -pmb _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… At 4:31 PM -0600 1/17/06, Paul Miller wrote: I've discovered that these things exist but haven't found any documentation on how to write one in Carbon/C++. Is there ANY documentation anywhere on the API for using these things? There is no plain-C or C++ API for Installer Plugins. The XCode Template and associated header files are the only documentation at this time. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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documentation for Installer plugins?
by Paul Miller 17 Jan '06

17 Jan '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) -- Paul Miller | paul(a)fxtech.com | www.fxtech.com | Got Tivo? _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I've discovered that these things exist but haven't found any documentation on how to write one in Carbon/C++. Is there ANY documentation anywhere on the API for using these things? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Installer (Package) question(s)
by Stéphane Sudre 16 Jan '06

16 Jan '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com On lundi, janvier 16, 2006, at 08:49 PM, George Lawrence Storm wrote: ----- A few installation questions: Don't install it in /, please... Ask for root even if Administrator would be sufficient. lists.apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… VIRGIN ALERT! Warning this is my first attempt at writing an installer / just joined list / and I am not a UNIX head (20+ years Mac). This is my first application which calls for anything more than drag & drop. I have decided to write an installer for my bTop1 UNIX tools <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bTop-1>. It will install a server, client (which is my command line tool for UNIX) and MAN page. 1) Should I install the client (UNIX tool) (relative to) root so anyone can use it or (relative to) the users home? For my testing I have been using /bin (relative to) root. 2) Where should I install my server daemon? It is an application that communicates by way of Distributed Objects so it is not restricted to where it goes by any UNIX rules, it is only addressed by way of the client (UNIX tool) and the user never talks to it or sees it directly (told you I am not a UNIX head). /Library/StartupItems comes to mind. Or if you're using the launchd thing, maybe /bin is ok too. 3) There is no mention in the documentation as to if I need to shut down my server before (upgrade) installation. Can I leave it run (preferred) or do I need to kill it first? I am trying to avoid altering the server which does not currently have a user command for shutting it down (it is a daemon) and would also prefer not to write a pre-upgrade script. I think the question is more: do you need to kill your server before upgrading it and then relaunch it? You're the one who has the answer to that one. 4) Is there a way I can set the server to always launch at startup using Package Maker? If I end up placing the server at root can I set it to always launch for all users? The server is likely to be installed in a hidden folder so I do not think the user can set the startup status from the preferences. Write a StartupItem or a launchd thing. There is a recent technote about this as a matter of fact (on ADC Website). 5) If I install my tools (relative to) root do I need to request the Root password or is Administrator sufficient? 6) Is there a way I can also provide an un-installer? The Software Distribution documentation leads me to believe I can not, however I have seen installers provide this functionality. Installer.app does not provide any un-installation feature (as of this writing). 7) Does this list have a searchable archive (like cocoabuilder) or only that provided by Apple (dismal)? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Installer (Package) question(s)
by George Lawrence Storm 16 Jan '06

16 Jan '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=W+bKU/OZPdUQ14BNe1+YHBrVBg1MC6k6brUut5L6K549AALi2p51KAA+ECzESnDY; h=Received:In-Reply-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; ----- A few installation questions: Thanks, George ----- George Lawrence Storm Macintosh Applications Development Edmonds (Seattle), Washington E-mail: <keencoyote(a)earthlink.net> <http://www.perfsci.com/hardware.htm> <gstorm(a)perfsci.com> _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… VIRGIN ALERT! Warning this is my first attempt at writing an installer / just joined list / and I am not a UNIX head (20+ years Mac). This is my first application which calls for anything more than drag & drop. I have decided to write an installer for my bTop1 UNIX tools <http:// groups.yahoo.com/group/bTop-1>. It will install a server, client (which is my command line tool for UNIX) and MAN page. 1) Should I install the client (UNIX tool) (relative to) root so anyone can use it or (relative to) the users home? For my testing I have been using /bin (relative to) root. 2) Where should I install my server daemon? It is an application that communicates by way of Distributed Objects so it is not restricted to where it goes by any UNIX rules, it is only addressed by way of the client (UNIX tool) and the user never talks to it or sees it directly (told you I am not a UNIX head). 3) There is no mention in the documentation as to if I need to shut down my server before (upgrade) installation. Can I leave it run (preferred) or do I need to kill it first? I am trying to avoid altering the server which does not currently have a user command for shutting it down (it is a daemon) and would also prefer not to write a pre-upgrade script. 4) Is there a way I can set the server to always launch at startup using Package Maker? If I end up placing the server at root can I set it to always launch for all users? The server is likely to be installed in a hidden folder so I do not think the user can set the startup status from the preferences. 5) If I install my tools (relative to) root do I need to request the Root password or is Administrator sufficient? 6) Is there a way I can also provide an un-installer? The Software Distribution documentation leads me to believe I can not, however I have seen installers provide this functionality. 7) Does this list have a searchable archive (like cocoabuilder) or only that provided by Apple (dismal)? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: What is the correct HTML readme link behavior??
by Stéphane Sudre 15 Jan '06

15 Jan '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com On jeudi, janvier 12, 2006, at 07:36 PM, Kevin Hoyt wrote: Hi all, Quick question... When the links are clicked on during the installation, the readme is opened in Safari, where the link target is displayed. Open Safari or the default Web Browser. This is a feature of NSTextView and AttributedLinks. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I have a readme that is an HTML file. This file has links in it to other locations INSIDE the file. The question is, should clicking on the the link open Safari or should it jump to the link-target inside the installer window? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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RE: SDK installer, destination paths
by Alex Sheh 13 Jan '06

13 Jan '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thread-index: AcYYjxx/uCqfYIFjT6eOudKmTcqavAABRG4g Thread-topic: SDK installer, destination paths _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: SDK installer, destination paths
by Luke Bellandi 13 Jan '06

13 Jan '06

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