January 2006 - Installer-dev

Re: requirements for installations...
by Christopher Ryan 12 Jan '06

12 Jan '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Marc, Chris Hi all... Thanks in advance. ----- Marc R. Hoffman Computer Operations Manager Morris Printing Group Phone: 308.236.7888, Extension 272 Fax: 928.441.6032 http://www.morrisprintinggroup.com http://www.morrispublishing.com http://www.schoolmate.com http://www.morriscookbooks.com http://www.overstockcookbooks.com http://www.studentagendas.com http://www.morrispress.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/ryanc%40apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Which version of Package Maker are you using? What system must this package run on? If it needs to only work on Tiger (10.4) you could write this logic by hand in JavaScript very easily. If you need it to work previous to 10.3 then your best bet is writing a simple shell script for your VolumeCheck script. Please forgive this if this is an elementary question :-). I am trying to do the following - Create an installation package that checks that the following conditions are present: a. /applications/adobe acrobat5/distiller OR b. /applications (Mac OS 9)/adobe acrobat5/distiller OR c. /library/application support/adobe PDF/Settings OR d. /users/shared/adobe PDF The problem here is that when I specify the installation requirements for the package, it appears that the when pulling up the "Edit Package Requirement..." dialog, there is no "or" settings. When I set up multiple conditions, they ALL must be met or the installation fails (i.e., each condition appears to be separated by AND instead of OR). Is there a way around this? We are trying to check for any instance of Adobe Acrobat on a system, and obviously, no one is going to have every version of Acrobat on his/her system since version 5! This email sent to ryanc(a)apple.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Problem during installing
by Christopher Ryan 12 Jan '06

12 Jan '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Jan 12, 2006, at 1:57 AM, Mo Yihua wrote: Hi all, When we test our install package on 10.4,there's a problem occoured. Chris Thanks! _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/ryanc%40apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I have two install packages made by PackageMake 1.0,one of two is a update package in which the application has higher version info. I install the newer package A.pkg firstly,and then delete it from my computer.Then install the another package B.pkg. During the installation of the second package,a message is given by Installer which is "You cannot continue.There is nothing to install.".Then exit the installation. This problem doesn't occour on 10.2 or 10.3. There is a known bug where it tells you there is nothing to install, rather then not allowing you to install in the first place. In package A.pkg's info.plist,key of CFBundleShortVersionString's value is highter than that in package B.pkg's info.plist. Delelte the my application only, don't delete /Receipt/A.pkg.After do this ,if I modify the value of CFBundleShortVersionString in "/Receipt/A.pkg/Contents/ info.plist",make the value lower than B.pkg's,the installation will work successfully.And execute it as an upgrade. Does Installer determine whether to install or upgrade by CFBundleShortVersionString's value in file "info.plist"? Is it a new feature of Installer on 10.4? This is not a new feature in 10.4. What is new is that we use the CFBundleIdentifier as a unique identifier (or the package name, if you did not use identifiers). So if A.pkg and B.pkg has the same CFBundleIdentifier (they shouldn't, considering they are different things all together, right?). As for CFBundleShortVersionString, it was used in previous system versions as well. This email sent to ryanc(a)apple.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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requirements for installations...
by Marc Hoffman 12 Jan '06

12 Jan '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi all... Thanks in advance. ----- Marc R. Hoffman Computer Operations Manager Morris Printing Group Phone: 308.236.7888, Extension 272 Fax: 928.441.6032 http://www.morrisprintinggroup.com http://www.morrispublishing.com http://www.schoolmate.com http://www.morriscookbooks.com http://www.overstockcookbooks.com http://www.studentagendas.com http://www.morrispress.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Please forgive this if this is an elementary question :-). I am trying to do the following - Create an installation package that checks that the following conditions are present: a. /applications/adobe acrobat5/distiller OR b. /applications (Mac OS 9)/adobe acrobat5/distiller OR c. /library/application support/adobe PDF/Settings OR d. /users/shared/adobe PDF The problem here is that when I specify the installation requirements for the package, it appears that the when pulling up the "Edit Package Requirement..." dialog, there is no "or" settings. When I set up multiple conditions, they ALL must be met or the installation fails (i.e., each condition appears to be separated by AND instead of OR). Is there a way around this? We are trying to check for any instance of Adobe Acrobat on a system, and obviously, no one is going to have every version of Acrobat on his/her system since version 5! This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Problem during installing
by Mo Yihua 12 Jan '06

12 Jan '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Importance: Normal Hi all, When we test our install package on 10.4,there's a problem occoured. I have two install packages made by PackageMake 1.0,one of two is a update package in which the application has higher version info. I install the newer package A.pkg firstly,and then delete it from my computer.Then install the another package B.pkg. During the installation of the second package,a message is given by Installer which is "You cannot continue.There is nothing to install.".Then exit the installation. This problem doesn't occour on 10.2 or 10.3. In package A.pkg's info.plist,key of CFBundleShortVersionString's value is highter than that in package B.pkg's info.plist. Delelte the my application only, don't delete /Receipt/A.pkg.After do this ,if I modify the value of CFBundleShortVersionString in "/Receipt/A.pkg/Contents/info.plist",make the value lower than B.pkg's,the installation will work successfully.And execute it as an upgrade. Does Installer determine whether to install or upgrade by CFBundleShortVersionString's value in file "info.plist"? Is it a new feature of Installer on 10.4? Thanks! _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: giving a plug-in path in script file
by Bill Coderre 10 Jan '06

10 Jan '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com I developed a plug_in for QuarkXpress 6.0 and need to install two items inside QuarkXpress folder, one is a extension that goes to XTension folder of Quark and the other is a folder containing a few files in it for internal application usage,and should be located into QuarkXpress as well. My Question is how can I determine these path in a script file during installation? It could be possible that machine has two version of Quark installed and I want to ignore the path of version with lower version than 6.0. Using Locator Installing to a temporary location On Jan 10, 2006, at 6:41 AM, Kamran wrote: There are two ways to do this: Using the Locator functionality, and Installing to a temporary location, then moving files during postflight. Let's say you have your installer archive set up so your files are in their correct location in /Applications/QuarkXpress.app/whatever/ stuff/goes/here. You could use the locator functionality to "find" Quark and disqualify incorrect versions based on version number. Read about it here, especially listing 7: http://developer.apple.com/documentation/DeveloperTools/Conceptual/ SoftwareDistribution/Concepts/sd_find_file.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/ 20001941 If all you are going to do is to install some files, this will work well. It will even ask the user which copy of Quark to update if more than one qualifies. There is a bit of a problem if you have to use preflight or postflight scripts that operate on these pieces, because the locator doesn't provide info to the scripts. However, if you don't need to do that, I'd probably use this method. Also, I'm not sure if it will work correctly in older versions of OS X. Be sure to test, and lock out installations on old systems, or the install will fail. Have the files installed, by default, in a folder in a temporary location, such as /var/tmp/<com.company.pkg.productname>/whatever/ stuff/goes/here. In postflight, move the files to the correct location, and clean up your temporary folder. /tmp is automatically cleaned up on restart, but /var/tmp is not. However, /tmp is world writeable and /var/tmp is only available to root, so there's fewer security concerns writing into /var/tmp. Just pick up after yourself. The obvious shortcoming to this plan is if there's more than one qualifying copy of Quark. At the end of install, you could theoretically run whatever program you want, put up a window, get user input, etc. HOWEVER, this is not the best user experience. Ideally, once the user clicks "Install," they should be able to walk away. Obviously, both of these approaches have their own drawbacks. There's no perfect solution, even in 10.4.x so far. If you find a case where you cannot do what you need to do without committing horrible atrocities, by all means file a bug and the Installer team will look at possible enhancements for future OS versions. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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giving a plug-in path in script file
by Kamran 10 Jan '06

10 Jan '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=BZLVQrWGO/8hPgRq8lfJ8nePkxT2RW+HsBmErOngeUZYfc9XdD4vSfDs3R8qzkdRIRwlsPk0DAPQvmxX8CF0jPQuu+MAq7bX4q3WOd+l4bQPjo+Pk7SSUNe0bqgW/G2wThL1feH6+vHzJsPacDBk2tK13UTRDb6SRYXpnuXDico= Hi all, I developed a plug_in for QuarkXpress 6.0 and need to install two items inside QuarkXpress folder, one is a extension that goes to XTension folder of Quark and the other is a folder containing a few files in it for internal application usage,and should be located into QuarkXpress as well. My Question is how can I determine these path in a script file during installation? It could be possible that machine has two version of Quark installed and I want to ignore the path of version with lower version than 6.0. Any advice would be a great help. Kamran _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Upgrade process fails on Tiger
by Koichiro Mino 10 Jan '06

10 Jan '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi, Chris. Thanks for your reply. Now, my installer works fine on upgrade process, by adding CFBunldeShortVersionString to the Info.plist in a new install package. Thank you all very much. Regards, K.Mino ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Ryan" <ryanc(a)apple.com> To: "Koichiro Mino" <mino.koichiro(a)fxpsc.co.jp> Cc: <installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 4:07 AM Subject: Re: Upgrade process fails on Tiger > K.Mino, > > I have responded directly off list, but I will share my findings with > the list as well. > > Because the old package does not have a CFBundleIdentifier and since > there is no CFBunldeShortVersion string (and Minor and Major versions > are set to 0 in both) the installer is not seeing these packages are > equal, and it cannot say for sure that it newer, so it considers > itself a downgrade and does not allow install. > > The workaround is to set the CFBundleShortVersion of the new package > to something other then 0 that makes sense. > > Ideally all packages would have CFBundleIdentifier and > CFBundleShortVersion, but since you can't change what you have > already shipped, you should start adding them now. > > Chris > > > Hi, Chris. > > Thanks for your reply. > > > >> What is your package layout? Are you using a meta package? > > > > My package is a simple package, not a meta package. > > > >> Can you send me the Info.plists from the two packages > >> and the names of these packages? > > > > I will send my plist files to Chris privately, > > but differences between those plists are the following > > 2 points. > > * Only the new package has CFBundleIdentifier. > > * Only the new package has IFPkgFlagInstalledSize. > > > > As told in my last post, removing CFBundleIdentifier > > from Info.plist of the new package enables the upgrade > > process correctly. > > So, this problem seems to come from the existence > > or implementation of Bundle ID. > > > > Regards, > > K.Mino > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Christopher Ryan" <ryanc(a)apple.com> > > To: "Koichiro Mino" <mino.koichiro(a)fxpsc.co.jp> > > Cc: <installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com> > > Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 1:09 AM > > Subject: Re: Upgrade process fails on Tiger > > > > > >> What is your package layout? Are you using a meta package? Can you > >> send me the Info.plists from the two packages and the names of these > >> packages? > >> > >> There is a bug in 10.4 where the reason for not being able to install > >> doesn't percolate up to the top and display in the Target Select > >> panel. Either way, the installer has decided your package can't be > >> installed and will not let you further. > >> > >> Chris > >> > >>> Hi, all. > >>> > >>> My installer fails to upgrade modules on Tiger (10.4.3). > >>> (No problem on Panther.) > >>> In the last step of upgrade process, the 'Install' button (not > >>> 'Upgrade') > >>> appears on the Installer's window, and clicking it raises the error > >>> message > >>> which tells that there is nothing to install. > >>> > >>> Both of my old & new installers have the same CFBundleName, > >>> and each has BundleVersions.plist described correctly. > >>> The difference between them is that only the new has > >>> CFBundleIdentifier > >>> in its Info.plist (because Tiger's PackageMaker requires that). > >>> > >>> I searched some clue in the archive, and found this post. > >>> http://lists.apple.com/archives/installer-dev/2005/Jun/ > >>> msg00000.html > >>> > >>> In my case, however, setting the unique ID doesn't solve the > >>> problem. > >>> > >>> This issue seems to come from the fact only the new installer has > >>> the ID. > >>> Upgrade works fine when removing it from the new one > >>> or adding it to the receipt of the old. > >>> > >>> Is there any way to make my new installer work correctly on upgrade > >>> with the old one? > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> K.Mino > >>> _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Upgrade process fails on Tiger
by Christopher Ryan 09 Jan '06

09 Jan '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com K.Mino, Chris Hi, Chris. Thanks for your reply. My package is a simple package, not a meta package. Can you send me the Info.plists from the two packages and the names of these packages? I will send my plist files to Chris privately, but differences between those plists are the following 2 points. * Only the new package has CFBundleIdentifier. * Only the new package has IFPkgFlagInstalledSize. As told in my last post, removing CFBundleIdentifier from Info.plist of the new package enables the upgrade process correctly. So, this problem seems to come from the existence or implementation of Bundle ID. Regards, K.Mino ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Ryan" <ryanc(a)apple.com> To: "Koichiro Mino" <mino.koichiro(a)fxpsc.co.jp> Cc: <installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 1:09 AM Subject: Re: Upgrade process fails on Tiger What is your package layout? Are you using a meta package? Can you send me the Info.plists from the two packages and the names of these packages? There is a bug in 10.4 where the reason for not being able to install doesn't percolate up to the top and display in the Target Select panel. Either way, the installer has decided your package can't be installed and will not let you further. Chris Hi, all. My installer fails to upgrade modules on Tiger (10.4.3). (No problem on Panther.) In the last step of upgrade process, the 'Install' button (not 'Upgrade') appears on the Installer's window, and clicking it raises the error message which tells that there is nothing to install. Both of my old & new installers have the same CFBundleName, and each has BundleVersions.plist described correctly. The difference between them is that only the new has CFBundleIdentifier in its Info.plist (because Tiger's PackageMaker requires that). This issue seems to come from the fact only the new installer has the ID. Upgrade works fine when removing it from the new one or adding it to the receipt of the old. Is there any way to make my new installer work correctly on upgrade with the old one? Regards, K.Mino _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/ryanc%40apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I have responded directly off list, but I will share my findings with the list as well. Because the old package does not have a CFBundleIdentifier and since there is no CFBunldeShortVersion string (and Minor and Major versions are set to 0 in both) the installer is not seeing these packages are equal, and it cannot say for sure that it newer, so it considers itself a downgrade and does not allow install. The workaround is to set the CFBundleShortVersion of the new package to something other then 0 that makes sense. Ideally all packages would have CFBundleIdentifier and CFBundleShortVersion, but since you can't change what you have already shipped, you should start adding them now. What is your package layout? Are you using a meta package? I searched some clue in the archive, and found this post. http://lists.apple.com/archives/installer-dev/2005/Jun/ msg00000.html In my case, however, setting the unique ID doesn't solve the problem. This email sent to ryanc(a)apple.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Upgrade process fails on Tiger
by Koichiro Mino 09 Jan '06

09 Jan '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi, Chris. Thanks for your reply. > What is your package layout? Are you using a meta package? My package is a simple package, not a meta package. > Can you send me the Info.plists from the two packages > and the names of these packages? I will send my plist files to Chris privately, but differences between those plists are the following 2 points. * Only the new package has CFBundleIdentifier. * Only the new package has IFPkgFlagInstalledSize. As told in my last post, removing CFBundleIdentifier from Info.plist of the new package enables the upgrade process correctly. So, this problem seems to come from the existence or implementation of Bundle ID. Regards, K.Mino ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Ryan" <ryanc(a)apple.com> To: "Koichiro Mino" <mino.koichiro(a)fxpsc.co.jp> Cc: <installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 1:09 AM Subject: Re: Upgrade process fails on Tiger > What is your package layout? Are you using a meta package? Can you > send me the Info.plists from the two packages and the names of these > packages? > > There is a bug in 10.4 where the reason for not being able to install > doesn't percolate up to the top and display in the Target Select > panel. Either way, the installer has decided your package can't be > installed and will not let you further. > > Chris > > > Hi, all. > > > > My installer fails to upgrade modules on Tiger (10.4.3). > > (No problem on Panther.) > > In the last step of upgrade process, the 'Install' button (not > > 'Upgrade') > > appears on the Installer's window, and clicking it raises the error > > message > > which tells that there is nothing to install. > > > > Both of my old & new installers have the same CFBundleName, > > and each has BundleVersions.plist described correctly. > > The difference between them is that only the new has > > CFBundleIdentifier > > in its Info.plist (because Tiger's PackageMaker requires that). > > > > I searched some clue in the archive, and found this post. > > http://lists.apple.com/archives/installer-dev/2005/Jun/msg00000.html > > > > In my case, however, setting the unique ID doesn't solve the problem. > > > > This issue seems to come from the fact only the new installer has > > the ID. > > Upgrade works fine when removing it from the new one > > or adding it to the receipt of the old. > > > > Is there any way to make my new installer work correctly on upgrade > > with the old one? > > > > Regards, > > K.Mino > > > _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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run PackageMaker remotely?
by Fazan 07 Jan '06

07 Jan '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=nl4xwyGI8kk1KrZdmc3E7+x60N6UVhpWrv6jfN/3hggIQetrARcrEiIbqdC63VZ8d3LoqAmtzqFCHKvFzzYn2QtdkFwVQoPyQz4aGbhTa3ZQOpRiFDLBj9c40TTDY/LqvaOJg4l0g6jC4+yYARgTH77ovB/wtlzvKOxuOS1GFeo= ; Hi all, I'm trying to create a build process for packaging an application. Ideally, I would like to ssh into my Mac and run PackageMaker from the command-line. This is useful to me so that I can connect remotely when I'm not near the machine and still package the app, and so that I can hook up the package creation to a larger process which makes the package available on my website. When I run PackageMaker's command-line in a local terminal window, it works fine, but when I'm connected via ssh and run it, I get an error message: Couldn't register server on this host. Has anyone else seen this error message with PackageMaker? I didn't think that PackageMaker was trying to start a server, but the message seems to imply that I can't run PackageMaker unless I am running it locally. I'm using PackageMaker 1.2 on OS X 10.3.9. Thanks in advance. Fazan __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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