January 2006 - Installer-dev

Re: SDK installer, destination paths
by Luke Bellandi 13 Jan '06

13 Jan '06

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SDK installer, destination paths
by Alex Sheh 13 Jan '06

13 Jan '06

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Re: Quitting all foreground applications during install
by Luke Bellandi 13 Jan '06

13 Jan '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Jan 13, 2006, at 12:22 AM, Rob Keniger wrote: On 13/01/2006, at 8:44, Robert Simutis wrote: - Luke - rob.keniger _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/luke%40apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I need to produce installers via PackageMaker which are capable of closing all open foreground applications (aside from the Finder, the Dock, and the Installer.app itself, of course), similar to the option available in Installer VISE. The applications should all prompt the user to save and come to the foreground in succession. (I have a stopgap measure which uses the <installer-check> to look for open apps via the JavaScript functions available in 10.4 installers, and if any are open it blocks the install, but this really isn't good for the user experience.) Is there a reliable way to close open applications with a relatively low amount of code, or is there a flag in the .dist scripts that I've missed in the docs that can do this? Do you really, really need to do this? As a user this would have to be one of the most annoying behaviours an installer can implement. It is incredibly intrusive and your users will hate you for it. Why not simply use the installer option to force a restart at the end of the installation if you need to install shared components? Depending on what is being installed, quitting certain applications before an install can be essential. Certainly it may not be necessary to quit all applications when installing the latest version of your application and its associated framework -- TextEdit can probably remain open during the install with no ill side-effects, for example. But you wouldn't want to leave MyApp.app version 1 running while installing MyApp.app version 2. Consider quitting only essential applications via an Installer Plug- In, and provide UI to alert the user to what you're doing before you do it. i.e., provide a "Quit Application" button in your Installer Plug-In, so that if users come to that pane and decide "I'd rather finish up the current session in my app and install this later" rather than having the app be shut down on them by the Installer with no warning. This email sent to luke(a)apple.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Quitting all foreground applications during install
by Luke Bellandi 13 Jan '06

13 Jan '06

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Re: Quitting all foreground applications during install
by Rob Keniger 13 Jan '06

13 Jan '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com On 13/01/2006, at 8:44, Robert Simutis wrote: - rob.keniger _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I need to produce installers via PackageMaker which are capable of closing all open foreground applications (aside from the Finder, the Dock, and the Installer.app itself, of course), similar to the option available in Installer VISE. The applications should all prompt the user to save and come to the foreground in succession. (I have a stopgap measure which uses the <installer-check> to look for open apps via the JavaScript functions available in 10.4 installers, and if any are open it blocks the install, but this really isn't good for the user experience.) Is there a reliable way to close open applications with a relatively low amount of code, or is there a flag in the .dist scripts that I've missed in the docs that can do this? Do you really, really need to do this? As a user this would have to be one of the most annoying behaviours an installer can implement. It is incredibly intrusive and your users will hate you for it. Why not simply use the installer option to force a restart at the end of the installation if you need to install shared components? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Quitting all foreground applications during install
by Robert Simutis 13 Jan '06

13 Jan '06

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Re: requirements for installations...
by Christopher Ryan 12 Jan '06

12 Jan '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com #!/bin/sh in order to explain to the user why they can't install. Chris Hi Christopher... Thanks for writing! We need to run on 10.2 and up (including 10.4). How might I do this? ----- Marc R. Hoffman Computer Operations Manager Morris Printing Group Phone: 308.236.7888, Extension 272 Fax: 928.441.6032 http://www.morrisprintinggroup.com http://www.morrispublishing.com http://www.schoolmate.com http://www.morriscookbooks.com http://www.overstockcookbooks.com http://www.studentagendas.com http://www.morrispress.com On Jan 12, 2006, at 11:28 AM, Christopher Ryan wrote: Marc, Chris Hi all... Thanks in advance. ----- Marc R. Hoffman Computer Operations Manager Morris Printing Group Phone: 308.236.7888, Extension 272 Fax: 928.441.6032 http://www.morrisprintinggroup.com http://www.morrispublishing.com http://www.schoolmate.com http://www.morriscookbooks.com http://www.overstockcookbooks.com http://www.studentagendas.com http://www.morrispress.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I would make the Package in Package Maker without the rules you tried to specify. Then add a shell script named VolumeCheck script to the package (or if you have multiple packages add it to the top level meta package). The script should look something like (again, I am no shell script master): if [ -x "$1/Applications/adobe acrobat5/distiller"]; then exit 0 else if [ -x "$1/Applications (Mac OS 9)/adobe acrobat5/distiller"]; then exit 0 else if [ -x "$1/Library/Application Support/adobe PDF/Settings"]; then exit 0 else if [ -x "$1/Users/Shared/adobe PDF"]; then exit 0 fi # (1<<5) dissalows installation 16 is the index for a string in the VolumeCheck.strings localized string file to use for the reason why. exit ((1 << 5) || 16); Note that it returns 16 as the string to display as an error. In Contents/Resources/English.lproj/VolumeCheck.strings you should have a file with: "16" = "Reason for not allowing install" Which version of Package Maker are you using? What system must this package run on? If it needs to only work on Tiger (10.4) you could write this logic by hand in JavaScript very easily. If you need it to work previous to 10.3 then your best bet is writing a simple shell script for your VolumeCheck script. Please forgive this if this is an elementary question :-). I am trying to do the following - Create an installation package that checks that the following conditions are present: a. /applications/adobe acrobat5/distiller OR b. /applications (Mac OS 9)/adobe acrobat5/distiller OR c. /library/application support/adobe PDF/Settings OR d. /users/shared/adobe PDF The problem here is that when I specify the installation requirements for the package, it appears that the when pulling up the "Edit Package Requirement..." dialog, there is no "or" settings. When I set up multiple conditions, they ALL must be met or the installation fails (i.e., each condition appears to be separated by AND instead of OR). Is there a way around this? We are trying to check for any instance of Adobe Acrobat on a system, and obviously, no one is going to have every version of Acrobat on his/her system since version 5! _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/ryanc% 40apple.com This email sent to ryanc(a)apple.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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What is the correct HTML readme link behavior??
by Kevin Hoyt 12 Jan '06

12 Jan '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi all, Quick question... I have a readme that is an HTML file. This file has links in it to other locations INSIDE the file. When the links are clicked on during the installation, the readme is opened in Safari, where the link target is displayed. The question is, should clicking on the the link open Safari or should it jump to the link-target inside the installer window? Kevin Hoyt _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: requirements for installations...
by Marc Hoffman 12 Jan '06

12 Jan '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Oops...forgot...I'm running PackageMaker 2.1 (122). ----- Marc R. Hoffman Computer Operations Manager Morris Printing Group Phone: 308.236.7888, Extension 272 Fax: 928.441.6032 http://www.morrisprintinggroup.com http://www.morrispublishing.com http://www.schoolmate.com http://www.morriscookbooks.com http://www.overstockcookbooks.com http://www.studentagendas.com http://www.morrispress.com On Jan 12, 2006, at 11:28 AM, Christopher Ryan wrote: Marc, Chris Hi all... Thanks in advance. ----- Marc R. Hoffman Computer Operations Manager Morris Printing Group Phone: 308.236.7888, Extension 272 Fax: 928.441.6032 http://www.morrisprintinggroup.com http://www.morrispublishing.com http://www.schoolmate.com http://www.morriscookbooks.com http://www.overstockcookbooks.com http://www.studentagendas.com http://www.morrispress.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Which version of Package Maker are you using? What system must this package run on? If it needs to only work on Tiger (10.4) you could write this logic by hand in JavaScript very easily. If you need it to work previous to 10.3 then your best bet is writing a simple shell script for your VolumeCheck script. Please forgive this if this is an elementary question :-). I am trying to do the following - Create an installation package that checks that the following conditions are present: a. /applications/adobe acrobat5/distiller OR b. /applications (Mac OS 9)/adobe acrobat5/distiller OR c. /library/application support/adobe PDF/Settings OR d. /users/shared/adobe PDF The problem here is that when I specify the installation requirements for the package, it appears that the when pulling up the "Edit Package Requirement..." dialog, there is no "or" settings. When I set up multiple conditions, they ALL must be met or the installation fails (i.e., each condition appears to be separated by AND instead of OR). Is there a way around this? We are trying to check for any instance of Adobe Acrobat on a system, and obviously, no one is going to have every version of Acrobat on his/her system since version 5! _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/ryanc% 40apple.com This email sent to ryanc(a)apple.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: requirements for installations...
by Marc Hoffman 12 Jan '06

12 Jan '06

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi Christopher... Thanks for writing! We need to run on 10.2 and up (including 10.4). How might I do this? ----- Marc R. Hoffman Computer Operations Manager Morris Printing Group Phone: 308.236.7888, Extension 272 Fax: 928.441.6032 http://www.morrisprintinggroup.com http://www.morrispublishing.com http://www.schoolmate.com http://www.morriscookbooks.com http://www.overstockcookbooks.com http://www.studentagendas.com http://www.morrispress.com On Jan 12, 2006, at 11:28 AM, Christopher Ryan wrote: Marc, Chris Hi all... Thanks in advance. ----- Marc R. Hoffman Computer Operations Manager Morris Printing Group Phone: 308.236.7888, Extension 272 Fax: 928.441.6032 http://www.morrisprintinggroup.com http://www.morrispublishing.com http://www.schoolmate.com http://www.morriscookbooks.com http://www.overstockcookbooks.com http://www.studentagendas.com http://www.morrispress.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Which version of Package Maker are you using? What system must this package run on? If it needs to only work on Tiger (10.4) you could write this logic by hand in JavaScript very easily. If you need it to work previous to 10.3 then your best bet is writing a simple shell script for your VolumeCheck script. Please forgive this if this is an elementary question :-). I am trying to do the following - Create an installation package that checks that the following conditions are present: a. /applications/adobe acrobat5/distiller OR b. /applications (Mac OS 9)/adobe acrobat5/distiller OR c. /library/application support/adobe PDF/Settings OR d. /users/shared/adobe PDF The problem here is that when I specify the installation requirements for the package, it appears that the when pulling up the "Edit Package Requirement..." dialog, there is no "or" settings. When I set up multiple conditions, they ALL must be met or the installation fails (i.e., each condition appears to be separated by AND instead of OR). Is there a way around this? We are trying to check for any instance of Adobe Acrobat on a system, and obviously, no one is going to have every version of Acrobat on his/her system since version 5! _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/ryanc% 40apple.com This email sent to ryanc(a)apple.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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