November 2007 - Installer-dev

Re: Re[2]: Installer is not showing Upgrade button in Leopard
by Stéphane Sudre 26 Nov '07

26 Nov '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com On lundi, novembre 26, 2007, at 09:56 AM, Peter Mulholland wrote: Hello JanakiRam, Monday, November 26, 2007, 2:34:07 AM, you wrote: Then how to overcome this ?. Is there any probable fox for this ? Please help me to analyze this problem. Thanks in Advance. What he is saying is that Apple have changed how Installer works, and they have removed the Upgrade feature. - There were localizations issues in the past (button not wide enough) - It was sometimes not obvious which label should be used. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Never said that or wanted to imply that. They haven't. They just removed the Upgrade label which is not such a bad move: - It could be confusing to users. And anyway, it's Installer.app, not Upgrader.app. IMO, Apple Installer is not reliable for 3rd party use, and is fundamentally flawed. If you need such features, then consider using a 3rd party installer such as Installer VISE X, or a custom made one. I've been using the Apple package solution for 6 years and I don't think that the first word that would come to my mind is flawed. It used to be less flexible than it is today but things are improving. Maybe it does not include all the features that you can find in Installer VISE X or InstallShield or the ones you could put into a custom made one. But I know one thing for sure, when I'm installing a package with Installer.app, I don't feel the urge to shoot myself contrary to my experience so far with multiple installers on Windows or Linux. The final end user experience with Installer.app is quite good. And I think that at the end of the days, that's what matters the most. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Consistent PackageMaker Crash When Building
by Dan Michaeli 26 Nov '07

26 Nov '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=S4uSId6+OH6q+i6d4d8Vb1F9Y7MU7s3W1R0hZX8ueGg=; b=DNV84ms7f0sM/ppn4UH9CFzeAVdlHwcS6Y33oOok7mzbm25R5K+S4dalwCzNbZ2rI8FjsTNGq4hEvaQHZDiuipCiYpBaRqVQAU8j0dus9ApXUN0SzozlqJT70YtkIfGn+Z18xecANlKhrURQUYnbqzVDD2UU42m9ywuXNvRA9wo= Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=received:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer; b=hxqAEKxYHQnVr6ypkuQFTryNnfaaBAPR+qdwg1SVTQituY7Jmr/Rr861J7kDVtISzFYSWKkOMxFQ18lX1CQGWPvq0Vg8UamKXRxdh+PfxZzgGWTOro/NIzTa6myibjpOk86Hz7Re7lu3Os1xgl6987YsS2LZUQX5nDM2l3UyBQY= Hi Nathan, In the problem report, the error is indicated to be: Best, Dan Thread 11 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit): eax: 0xa07490f0 ebx: 0x9587607c ecx: 0xa07481a0 edx: 0x00133000 edi: 0x157dc540 esi: 0xa0040858 ebp: 0xb0578a28 esp: 0xb0578a28 ss: 0x0000001f efl: 0x00000282 eip: 0x95286114 cs: 0x00000017 ds: 0x0000001f es: 0x0000001f fs: 0x0000001f gs: 0x00000037 cr2: 0x2f223000 On Nov 27, 2007, at 1:50 AM, Nathan Duran wrote: On Nov 26, 2007, at 3:58 AM, Dan Michaeli wrote: _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… That's a fair question, and thanks for writing back so quickly. The file wasn't actually Zerolink activated, certainly not when it was my own app. The other apps I tested including in the installer were some basic Apple apps, like Dashboard and Calculator. All had the same crash when I tried to build. The exact line in the display just before the crash was always either "Checking for ZeroLink..." or something about preverifying permissions. Application Specific Information: *** Terminating app due to uncaught exception 'NSInvalidArgumentException', reason: 'launch path not accessible' I'm not sure what that means. I tried repairing permissions, but that didn't help. I'm adding the relevant sections of the crash log below (and I could include the entire crash log if anyone is interested). Thread 11 Crashed: 0 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x95286114 ___TERMINATING_DUE_TO_UNCAUGHT_EXCEPTION___ + 4 1 libobjc.A.dylib 0x9587609b objc_exception_throw + 40 2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9528604b +[NSException raise:format:arguments:] + 155 3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9528608a +[NSException raise:format:] + 58 4 com.apple.Foundation 0x901a2f0a -[NSConcreteTask launchWithDictionary:] + 2490 5 com.apple.Foundation 0x901a2549 -[NSConcreteTask launch] + 41 6 com.apple.PackageMaker 0x00077179 0x1000 + 483705 7 com.apple.PackageMaker 0x000329c0 0x1000 + 203200 8 com.apple.PackageMaker 0x00031fb1 0x1000 + 200625 9 com.apple.PackageMaker 0x0003307e 0x1000 + 204926 10 com.apple.PackageMaker 0x00030d66 0x1000 + 195942 11 com.apple.PackageMaker 0x0003e604 0x1000 + 251396 12 com.apple.PackageMaker 0x0002fe3d 0x1000 + 192061 13 com.apple.Foundation 0x9018604d -[NSThread main] + 45 14 com.apple.Foundation 0x90185bf4 __NSThread__main__ + 308 15 libSystem.B.dylib 0x952fe075 _pthread_start + 321 16 libSystem.B.dylib 0x952fdf32 thread_start + 34 I'm having a hard time creating an installer with PackageMaker 3.0.1. Whenever I add an application bundle to be installed as part of a pmdoc, and then try to build the package, PackageMaker crashes. This generally happens as it says it is applying recommended permissions or verifying ZeroLink (for the application bundle). I'm not sure if it's causing the crash, but you really shouldn't be distributing/installing anything with ZeroLink enabled. Does it work if you package a release build instead? _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/dmichaeli%40gmail.com This email sent to dmichaeli(a)gmail.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Consistent PackageMaker Crash When Building
by Nathan Duran 26 Nov '07

26 Nov '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com On Nov 26, 2007, at 3:58 AM, Dan Michaeli wrote: I'm having a hard time creating an installer with PackageMaker 3.0.1. Whenever I add an application bundle to be installed as part of a pmdoc, and then try to build the package, PackageMaker crashes. This generally happens as it says it is applying recommended permissions or verifying ZeroLink (for the application bundle). I'm not sure if it's causing the crash, but you really shouldn't be distributing/installing anything with ZeroLink enabled. Does it work if you package a release build instead? _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Re[2]: Installer is not showing Upgrade button in Leopard
by Christopher Ryan 26 Nov '07

26 Nov '07

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Consistent PackageMaker Crash When Building
by Dan Michaeli 26 Nov '07

26 Nov '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:x-mailer; bh=WG74/6SBgclqesiKCmhng+/8zxDCeHhnD5X4jbOEa8o=; b=iiIg2ZyuXdvc6H7yTX7JdjL+szNQ3DC56juZNWwBrNiY9bE6FY30C820DZP8h1nWA0pFsc0gFdKty9XPgzolS8YriYSMypKgp2NqMZfYvsQ+4N/V0INbSJc6xQBHWomaznpuHyOTD+U1zntkBLs3GG10X5nipXeXd+ShMnocPyk= Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=received:message-id:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:x-mailer; b=T+mNasPCy8A6L4MN/QTQZx+oX9ayhFgv27dlg6QGROFlrRaCus5JS10nJP3xvxUnZ0mCHDRTz0mwyFZNgi5m022T+tEgACu9ggOnbGL8qu5ZAL6jnEE2+AM7SJ77gPBQAOcoDFilvte4rQ/0JUxrlAKTabVwHKg/UHtD55O/Qug= Dear all, Thanks, Dan -- Dan Michaeli dmichaeli(a)gmail.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I'm having a hard time creating an installer with PackageMaker 3.0.1. Whenever I add an application bundle to be installed as part of a pmdoc, and then try to build the package, PackageMaker crashes. This generally happens as it says it is applying recommended permissions or verifying ZeroLink (for the application bundle). When I don't have an application bundle in the installer package, the build does not crash (and the installer works great). This occurs whenever an application bundle is included in the installer. I have also tried other application bundles just to make sure the particular one I was installing did not have some kind of corruption problem--and the same error occurred. I tried reinstalling PackageMaker, trashing the prefs, and restarting but I'm still unable to build a package. Please advise! Have any of you encountered the same problem? Any ideas what might be wrong? I can't imagine absolutely everyone is unable to create installers for applications with the new version of PackageMaker! This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re[2]: Installer is not showing Upgrade button in Leopard
by Peter Mulholland 26 Nov '07

26 Nov '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hello JanakiRam, Monday, November 26, 2007, 2:34:07 AM, you wrote: > Then how to overcome this ?. Is there any probable fox for this ? > Please help me to analyze this problem. Thanks in Advance. What he is saying is that Apple have changed how Installer works, and they have removed the Upgrade feature. It is unlikely Apple will re-add this. IMO, Apple Installer is not reliable for 3rd party use, and is fundamentally flawed. If you need such features, then consider using a 3rd party installer such as Installer VISE X, or a custom made one. -- Best regards, Peter mailto:darkmatter@blueyonder.co.uk _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Installer is not showing Upgrade button in Leopard
by JanakiRam 26 Nov '07

26 Nov '07

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Re: Installer is not showing Upgrade button in Leopard
by Stéphane Sudre 25 Nov '07

25 Nov '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com On dimanche, novembre 25, 2007, at 06:59 PM, JanakiRam wrote: Hi Stéphane, Thanks for the response. No. That wouldn't change anything IMHO. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Do i need to re-create an installer on Leopard OS to get upgrade button ?..... Are there any major changes in Package Maker on Leopard , because of which its not showing upgrade button ? There are major changes but this has nothing to do with PackageMaker. The difference in behavior is with Installer.app This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Installer-dev Digest, Vol 39, Issue 19
by patrick machielse 25 Nov '07

25 Nov '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Op 25 nov 2007, om 21:04 heeft Stéphane Sudre het volgende geschreven: patrick _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… The problem I'm having now (only tested on 10.5.1) is that the Installer doesn't run my scripts. I can see that they are included in the package, they just never seem to be executed. The same seems to be true for the distribution action (get iPhoto and quit it); it never seems to run. It could be the usual mistakes with preinstall and postinstall scripts. They are only executed when the package is installed for the first time on the system (*). If you want this to be run for every installation, use preflight and postflight (**). Thank you for pointing me in the right direction! I'm slowly figuring it out... If you make a package that is compatible with 10.4 you must indeed use preflight and postflight, which still run on 10.5. The PackageMaker 3.0 'documentation' seems to suggest otherwise ("Important: In Mac OS X v10.5 clients, the only install operations available are preinstall and postinstall"), which put me on the wrong track. According to these same documents, if scripts are used "Installer also warns users that it’s about to execute unsecured code when they open the installation package". This (luckily!) doesn't seem to happen, at least when I run my installer package. What _does_ happen (and _isn't_ in the documentation): when I specify a pre- or post install 'action', the users must authorize as administrator (to be allowed to quit iPhoto, for heaven's sake). This is not what I want. All in all a Sunday afternoon wasted with, what should have been, a 5 minute job. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Installer is not showing Upgrade button in Leopard
by JanakiRam 25 Nov '07

25 Nov '07

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