November 2007 - Installer-dev

Leopard installer too smart and overwrite existing app
by Martin Bestmann 12 Nov '07

12 Nov '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi, Is this an intended behaviour? Here are the exact steps to reproduce this: I've filed this as RADAR #5595385. Best regards, Martin _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I'm facing a very odd issue with the Leopard installer. Here is what I have: I have a folder called /myApps in the root of my disk. Inside that folder is a bundled Cocoa app called myDemoApp. Now I want to install a copy of that app with the name "myDemoApp Copy". To do this I duplicate myDemoApp and create a new installer package using PackageMaker (destination "/myApps"). When installing this package, it will NOT create a new app "myDemoApp Copy" but rather update the existing app "myDemoApp" in "/myApps". Here is the essential part of the installer log Nov 12 21:45:15 martin Installer[1593]: Processing my DemoApp: Nov 12 21:45:15 martin Installer[1593]: Determining files to install Nov 12 21:45:15 martin Installer[1593]: ./myDemoApp copy.app installed to /myApps/myDemoApp.app To make this even worse. If you do not have "DemoApp" in /myApps but somewhere else (e.g. in /tmp) the installer will update that version. - Create folder /myApps - Copy any bundle app (e.g. create new sample cocoa app in XCode) into /myApps - Duplicate the app - Create a package with PackageMaker with the duplicated app (the one having the "Copy" at the end) - Delete the duplicated app from /myApps and empty trash - Install the created package -> You will not get a second app in /myApps with "Copy" at the end of the name but the existing app is overwritten -> Check the installer log for additional info. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Developer Tools
by Jeff Vandehey 12 Nov '07

12 Nov '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hello, I am re-working our imaging strategy for a mid-size office. I have a shell script that creates a sparse image, and applies the OS, and any custom packages to the sparse image. This is working great for fairly generic packages, but I'm having some problems with Developer Tools. I downloaded the xcode 3.0 DMG. It contains a main package installer, and a couple of sub-packages. I cannot get the developer tools to install, because the package requires that I be booted off an active 10.5 volume. This causes a failure when I am trying to set the 10.5 sparse image as the destination. Has anyone been able to get around this? Is there any way to install the dev tools to a non-boot volume? Thanks for any help. -Jeff _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Is there/will there be uninstall supported in PackageMaker v3.0?
by Perbix, Michael 12 Nov '07

12 Nov '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thread-index: AcghmatPUz0jTeK5Trq9BfDNHE0YbADwJEMR Thread-topic: Is there/will there be uninstall supported in PackageMaker v3.0? FYI, InstallEase from LANRev has an option to create an Uninstall package when you use it to create the install package...all it does is create an empty installer with a shell script removing everything that was installed. -Mike On 11/7/07 6:42 PM, "Stéphane Sudre" <ssudre2(a)wanadoo.fr> wrote: On mercredi, novembre 7, 2007, at 10:01 AM, Damodar Shenoy wrote: > Hi List, > > I am working on PackageMaker 2.1.1, in which there is no support for > uninstall. > > I wanted to know whether the uninstall feature is supported in Leopard? No. > And How can I support the uninstall feature in PackageMaker 2.1.1? You can't. One of the current solutions is to either let your users rely on existing utility that try to uninstall applications or to write a specific script or tool to do this for your app. Yet, with the new database replacing receipts and the fact that apparently packages are no more in disgrace in the UI guidelines when it comes to installation, things look a bit brighter for the future. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/perbix%40lmsd.org This email sent to perbix(a)lmsd.org _______________________________________________ Michael Perbix Lower Merion School District Telecommunications Specialist (610) 645-1964 - Work (610) 896-2019 - Fax _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Installed downloaded software updates via commandline
by Martin Bestmann 09 Nov '07

09 Nov '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi, Thanks very much, Martin _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I like to know what would be the correct method to install software updates that I've downloaded via the commandline "installer -d" option on Leopard. I see that they have .dist files but unfortunately the command line version of "installer" can not deal with those files even so "Installer" accepts them but then errors out (The install failed (The Installer could not install the software because there was no software found to install.)) Do I have to manually look into the .dist file and figure things out on my own? Is there any documentation on the content of a .dist file? I've not found anything This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Copying executables via shell script in OS X 10.5
by cohen.rick＠gmail.com 08 Nov '07

08 Nov '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; bh=nQaNL+OSNK0tngZj0Eeo5HHLBuS5uhJF4pfYIFkFObs=; b=qJPn3AbF8B7pLytHT1499CkP2AvuPQ9mwDtcmOEE1EzjgURafhnm9CcpRynFx5Upoiv3JSmuRho6l4snPqfkeAA37eHyrObnj7cIOIyTTbmAl8a5i8aRWUtYXkY/VDHoucsMDkQFlhqIBLUz9YZmPqEDm0D/Vek1c13weYAjdQY= Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; b=VNwwzn4sw37Y65cM4toDcVqKixXuYanSZK51msfeqc36zWueNIuYK0k7S0ENUuLjIiMsN06MjjZ8cLrQPtt7fN8CJmpcf6+49ZDk+pq1Fb9QJoTXJ9U/tR5UTKKTh1/q6TT/5unc/sVEF0E/0QQU14Jea0aLi71egHEMe3TJNQo= User-agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) HI folks, I found my problem. Pilot error. Sorry for the wasted bandwidth! - Rick You can probably find some clues in /var/log/install.log Brett Hi folks, Any clues? Thanks! This email sent to brett(a)apogeedigital.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… On 11/8/2007 11:48 AM, Brett George wrote: cohen.rick(a)gmail.com wrote: Our DVD installer is failing under Leopard. We store most of our files so that they are directly visible in the DVD file system, outside of the mpkg. Many of the files are cross-platform and our DVD includes a Windows installer as well. We are running the installer with admin priviledges. Our files are typically copied from the DVD to their target directory in PostInstall scripts. When running the installer on a 10.5 system, all of the pure data files and documentation files (PDF) are copied correctly. However, our applications and plug-in bundles are not copied at all. - Rick _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/brett%40apogeedigital.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Copying executables via shell script in OS X 10.5
by Brett George 08 Nov '07

08 Nov '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com User-agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) You can probably find some clues in /var/log/install.log Brett Hi folks, Any clues? Thanks! This email sent to brett(a)apogeedigital.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… cohen.rick(a)gmail.com wrote: Our DVD installer is failing under Leopard. We store most of our files so that they are directly visible in the DVD file system, outside of the mpkg. Many of the files are cross-platform and our DVD includes a Windows installer as well. We are running the installer with admin priviledges. Our files are typically copied from the DVD to their target directory in PostInstall scripts. When running the installer on a 10.5 system, all of the pure data files and documentation files (PDF) are copied correctly. However, our applications and plug-in bundles are not copied at all. - Rick _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/brett%40apogeedigital.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Copying executables via shell script in OS X 10.5
by cohen.rick＠gmail.com 08 Nov '07

08 Nov '07

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Re: Re[2]: Customizing DMG(Apply Background image and Icons)
by Michael Watson 08 Nov '07

08 Nov '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com -- m-s On 07 Nov, 2007, at 19:28, Michael Watson wrote: Good news and bad news for you. Let's start with the good news. NOW FOR THE BAD NEWS: I filed a bug on this one yesterday. rdar://5582578 -- m-s On 07 Nov, 2007, at 04:04, Peter Mulholland wrote: Hello Stéphane, Wednesday, November 7, 2007, 7:56:13 AM, you wrote: It's -aV - uppercase to set, lowercase to remove. 3. Click on the icon zone in the Info window and copy and paste your icon Or just copy a file as .VolumeIcon.icns to the root of the dmg :) -- Best regards, Peter mailto:darkmatter@blueyonder.co.uk _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/mikey-san%40bungie.org _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Oops. For clarification, I'm strictly speaking of automating the process without icky GUI scripting, not doing it by hand in the Finder. You can set the "background picture" property of a folder's container window with Finder via AppleScript. In order to get this to work with a disk image's mounted volume, you have to mount the volume, copy the image file to the volume, open the window of the volume, then set the property for that. Set it as invisible with SetFile and you're done. Easy peasy. (I do this all the time in my custom dmg tool chain.) If you set the volume's window to an image on your drive, well, it won't be found when the disk image mounts. (It has to be present on the image volume.) In Leopard, the ability to set the background picture of a folder window is somewhat broken. In fact, you're going to get this error if the background picture resides on a mounted volume, which is required to get this to work: "Finder got an error: Couldn't make file [path to background picture on the volume] into type file." Works in Tiger perfectly, doesn't in Leopard. But if the background picture resides on your hard drive, you can set the background picture of a folder successfully. Nutshell: If the background picture resides on a mounted volume, the command won't work. 1. Copy the background picture file to the Disk Image 2. Use the View Options inspector to set the background image. 3. Make the background image invisible with the /DevTools/SetFile utility. The most difficult part here is to remember whether it's v or V that makes a file invisible. You can also use the UNIX way - call the file .background.png or so. The only problem with this is it can be a bit of a swine to set it in Finder, although if memory serves you can put in the filename into the file dialog and it will find it. I do it this way because up until this post, I didn't realise there were extra file flags :) What I would like to know, is if there is any way to set the background image without having to faff about in Finder - some command line tool, for example. I guess you could make Finder do it with some AppleScript. 1. Select the mounted disk image volume 2. Choose File >> Get Info A better solution could be to use Pixadex to set the icon. This email sent to mikey-san(a)bungie.org This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Re[2]: Customizing DMG(Apply Background image and Icons)
by Michael Watson 08 Nov '07

08 Nov '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Good news and bad news for you. Let's start with the good news. NOW FOR THE BAD NEWS: I filed a bug on this one yesterday. rdar://5582578 -- m-s On 07 Nov, 2007, at 04:04, Peter Mulholland wrote: Hello Stéphane, Wednesday, November 7, 2007, 7:56:13 AM, you wrote: It's -aV - uppercase to set, lowercase to remove. You can also use the UNIX way - call the file .background.png or so. The only problem with this is it can be a bit of a swine to set it in Finder, although if memory serves you can put in the filename into the file dialog and it will find it. I do it this way because up until this post, I didn't realise there were extra file flags :) What I would like to know, is if there is any way to set the background image without having to faff about in Finder - some command line tool, for example. I guess you could make Finder do it with some AppleScript. 3. Click on the icon zone in the Info window and copy and paste your icon Or just copy a file as .VolumeIcon.icns to the root of the dmg :) -- Best regards, Peter mailto:darkmatter@blueyonder.co.uk _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/mikey-san%40bungie.org _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… You can set the "background picture" property of a folder's container window with Finder via AppleScript. In order to get this to work with a disk image's mounted volume, you have to mount the volume, copy the image file to the volume, open the window of the volume, then set the property for that. Set it as invisible with SetFile and you're done. Easy peasy. (I do this all the time in my custom dmg tool chain.) If you set the volume's window to an image on your drive, well, it won't be found when the disk image mounts. (It has to be present on the image volume.) In Leopard, the ability to set the background picture of a folder window is somewhat broken. In fact, you're going to get this error if the background picture resides on a mounted volume, which is required to get this to work: "Finder got an error: Couldn't make file [path to background picture on the volume] into type file." Works in Tiger perfectly, doesn't in Leopard. But if the background picture resides on your hard drive, you can set the background picture of a folder successfully. Nutshell: If the background picture resides on a mounted volume, the command won't work. 1. Copy the background picture file to the Disk Image 2. Use the View Options inspector to set the background image. 3. Make the background image invisible with the /DevTools/SetFile utility. The most difficult part here is to remember whether it's v or V that makes a file invisible. 1. Select the mounted disk image volume 2. Choose File >> Get Info A better solution could be to use Pixadex to set the icon. This email sent to mikey-san(a)bungie.org This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Re[2]: Customizing DMG(Apply Background image and Icons)
by Stéphane Sudre 07 Nov '07

07 Nov '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com On mercredi, novembre 7, 2007, at 10:04 AM, Peter Mulholland wrote: Hello Stéphane, Wednesday, November 7, 2007, 7:56:13 AM, you wrote: 3. Make the background image invisible with the /DevTools/SetFile utility. The most difficult part here is to remember whether it's v or V that makes a file invisible. Viva los shell aliases. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… 1. Copy the background picture file to the Disk Image 2. Use the View Options inspector to set the background image. It's -aV - uppercase to set, lowercase to remove. Yeah it's a uppercase to set the file to be inVisible with a V as in Visible. Easy to rememb... I've already forgotten it. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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