November 2007 - Installer-dev

Re: Is there/will there be uninstall supported in PackageMaker v3.0?
by Stéphane Sudre 07 Nov '07

07 Nov '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com On mercredi, novembre 7, 2007, at 10:01 AM, Damodar Shenoy wrote: Hi List, No. You can't. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I am working on PackageMaker 2.1.1, in which there is no support for uninstall. I wanted to know whether the uninstall feature is supported in Leopard? And How can I support the uninstall feature in PackageMaker 2.1.1? One of the current solutions is to either let your users rely on existing utility that try to uninstall applications or to write a specific script or tool to do this for your app. Yet, with the new database replacing receipts and the fact that apparently packages are no more in disgrace in the UI guidelines when it comes to installation, things look a bit brighter for the future. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re[2]: Customizing DMG(Apply Background image and Icons)
by Peter Mulholland 07 Nov '07

07 Nov '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hello Stéphane, Wednesday, November 7, 2007, 7:56:13 AM, you wrote: > 1. Copy the background picture file to the Disk Image > 2. Use the View Options inspector to set the background image. > 3. Make the background image invisible with the /DevTools/SetFile > utility. The most difficult part here is to remember whether it's v or > V that makes a file invisible. It's -aV - uppercase to set, lowercase to remove. You can also use the UNIX way - call the file .background.png or so. The only problem with this is it can be a bit of a swine to set it in Finder, although if memory serves you can put in the filename into the file dialog and it will find it. I do it this way because up until this post, I didn't realise there were extra file flags :) What I would like to know, is if there is any way to set the background image without having to faff about in Finder - some command line tool, for example. I guess you could make Finder do it with some AppleScript. > 1. Select the mounted disk image volume > 2. Choose File >> Get Info > 3. Click on the icon zone in the Info window and copy and paste your > icon > A better solution could be to use Pixadex to set the icon. Or just copy a file as .VolumeIcon.icns to the root of the dmg :) -- Best regards, Peter mailto:darkmatter@blueyonder.co.uk _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Is there/will there be uninstall supported in PackageMaker v3.0?
by Damodar Shenoy 07 Nov '07

07 Nov '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hi List, I wanted to know whether the uninstall feature is supported in Leopard? And How can I support the uninstall feature in PackageMaker 2.1.1? Thanks in advance for any suggestions, Regards, damodar. ----------------------------------------------- Robosoft Technologies - Come home to Technology Disclaimer: This email may contain confidential material. If you were not an intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies. Emails to and from our network may be logged and monitored. This email and its attachments are scanned for virus by our scanners and are believed to be safe. However, no warranty is given that this email is free of malicious content or virus. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I am working on PackageMaker 2.1.1, in which there is no support for uninstall. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Customizing DMG(Apply Background image and Icons)
by Stéphane Sudre 07 Nov '07

07 Nov '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com On mercredi, novembre 7, 2007, at 05:13 AM, JanakiRam wrote: Hi ALL, cd MyDMGFolder cp $StagingArea/Myapp.pkginfo . hdiutil create -ov -srcfolder . MyApplication.dmg Background picture -> View Options in the Finder: 1. Copy the background picture file to the Disk Image 2. Use the View Options inspector to set the background image. Icon -> Get Info Window in the Finder: 1. Select the mounted disk image volume 2. Choose File > Get Info A better solution could be to use Pixadex to set the icon. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I'm new to DMG/Installer stuff in Mac. I've created a DMG for my application in the following manner. Now i want to apply background to my dmg folder once it gets mounted. And also want to apply icon to my DMG. Can any one provide some pointers on achieving this functionality. Please help me to solve this. Thanks in Advance. 3. Make the background image invisible with the /DevTools/SetFile utility. The most difficult part here is to remember whether it's v or V that makes a file invisible. 3. Click on the icon zone in the Info window and copy and paste your icon This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Why did we need to get rid of the execution log in PackageMaker?
by installerdev＠khiltd.com 07 Nov '07

07 Nov '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thread-index: Acgg98tOCaeDNIzrEdy4ZgAKldkmlA== Thread-topic: Why did we need to get rid of the execution log in PackageMaker? User-agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.3.060209 I've got a really simple .pmproj based installer that: 1. Executes a preflight script 2. Puts one single application package in the user-chosen destination folder 3. Executes a postflight script It's worked perfectly for years, but I needed to build a new version of the application for Leopard, so I opened it, watched in horror as PackageMaker hung and crashed several times until I deleted its preferences files, wrestled with the fact that the command line version's "compatibility mode" wasn't actually compatible with anything except building broken packages that cannot be opened by anything for a while, and then got all my build scripts updated to the new syntax and running smoothly. Unfortunately, while my installers are now being built correctly in Leopard, they are not executing correctly. Specifically, nothing is installed. The installer goes through all the motions and does everything in its power to indicate success on all fronts, but at the end of the process, nothing is written to the destination drive, and no scripts are executed. It prompts for admin passwords just fine, so I don't think it's a permissions issue when trying to write to /Applications. One interesting thing that I have noticed is that some settings in my project, especially those which are made from the new "Components" tab, are not persistent in any meaningful way. If I uncheck a box, it re-checks itself as soon as the .pmdoc file is closed and re-opened (yes, I hit "Save" before closing). Whether or not this has anything to do with the fact that nothing is being installed, I have no idea, but it's the only thing I can actually see going wrong. Ordinarily, whenever I had no idea why an installer was failing, I could elect to run it from PackageMaker with a detailed execution log, and find out everything I needed to know right there. This is no longer possible it seems, and I haven't found anything comparable in Console.app to serve as a substitute. So I figured I'd have to go run 'installer' with the -verbose flag on to get any useful information as to what was going wrong, and much to my surprise, doing that made the exact same installer package work perfectly! Scripts were run, app was installed, and all was well. Deleted everything and tried simply double clicking the same package file that had just worked on the command line, and once again, it only pretended to work and nothing was actually installed. Why oh why did the execution log die? PackageMaker is frustrating enough without the ability to debug what it builds. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Customizing DMG(Apply Background image and Icons)
by JanakiRam 07 Nov '07

07 Nov '07

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Re: how to make a hybrid disc?
by Stéphane Sudre 07 Nov '07

07 Nov '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com On mardi, novembre 6, 2007, at 04:48 PM, Wayne Linder wrote: Alex, That’s about it. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… Toast can indeed make a hybrid CD. I use it about weekly to make Solutions CDs for Iomega. If you have Toast 8, enable the Show Legacy Formats and Settings checkbox in the general preferences. You will now see Custom Hybrid in the Data section. I start by making a .dmg of my Mac side with the image set to auto open, custom folder background, etc. I add the stuff from my PC side by clicking the Select ISO button (get rid of all the OS X “stuff” first, like .DS_Store files, etc.). Then, click the Select Mac button and find your mounted disk image. I create a disc image first. That becomes the ISO file sent to the duplicating houses. Then, I burn. Here’s a great link: http://www.davidseah.com/blog/creating-a-hybrid-cd-rom-with-toast-7/ It's even easier in Toast 8. You can just do that with Drag and drop (and it's also clever enough to remove .DS_Store). If it was possible to save the settings in this case (.dmg and PC files), it would avoir redefining the components every time. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: how to make a hybrid disc?
by Wayne Linder 06 Nov '07

06 Nov '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Thread-index: AcggjHAzrrX9uox/EdyTewANk8GE7A== Thread-topic: how to make a hybrid disc? User-agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.3.3.061214 _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: how to make a hybrid disc?
by cohen.rick＠gmail.com 06 Nov '07

06 Nov '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; bh=fFhU0YKlJp5MteKihhPWdmDqC5fhmIMQ/j4L6W0ghTQ=; b=NQyj7ApdSlat/FPvAcUhTojpwIr9BpM1Ndlt9s5nOKnWkT/TlVNlEtKyTmS1mdoJXaGLVjvL9WqM/msopj52esTjRhsB9SbDDCOSu/W7ImV6y62G9A+QnACGql2EEdWaCSAv7AuQs1GvmG0UGgbi8Eqp4Fg+D5Yj0tTClQgKs/I= Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; b=eSdRzI9h6bppXxnc2FtWJzGveiTBZU7OE0Bpqmn/9gyBa8DyOwnPMAbjMM3zjHG+dRj+l2fDwoOg4BTsQyyZVDKTzTP7l9N22CaDj6G8pS5A/PfiEj5xOEijqsEEc0uwPzKw/CqooMLUJy0uWuOw7DSO07IUPuXNrzn0Lm8Gx5w= User-agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) Toast does an excellent job of this, and has a nice UI as well. - Rick Hello Alex, OK, here goes the details, but that is getting really, really off-topic. That's basically it. Alex Am 06.11.2007 um 10:30 schrieb Alex Ivanov: */Alexander von Below <below(a)mac.com <mailto:below@mac.com>>/* wrote: Hello Alex, I can tell you in great detail, if you want the technical details let me know -- but I am pretty sure you don't really want to know. Buring Software like Toast can burn Hybrid Disks easily, you should look into these applications. Alex Am 06.11.2007 um 10:21 schrieb Alex Ivanov: > Hello everyone! > > Could someone recommend a good software that i can use to make a > hybrid disc, that contains my installer package in order to install > one both pc and mac platforms? > > This software should work on mac os 10.5 leopard. > > Thanks, > alex > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com <mailto:Installer-dev@lists.apple.com>) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/below%40mac.com > > This email sent to below(a)mac.com <mailto:below@mac.com> > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/rcohen.lists%40gmail.c… _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… On 11/6/2007 4:37 AM, Alexander von Below wrote: do you have any indication Hybrid Disks work differently on OS X 10.5 than before? If so, please share. What you have to to is write a normal Apple Partition Map at Block 0 (you can go up to block 15), and then the PVD and SVD at Blocks 16 and 17 respectively. Then you put the Main Mac partition behind block 16. After the Mac partition, put your normal ISO-9660/Joliet structures. Now my suggestion is to write all shared data into the Mac Partition, and then use pointers from the ISO directories into the Mac partition (you can do that, because ISO can address any block on the disk). Also, I am postitive Toast can do it. Even freeware can do it: http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/28483 Thanky you Alex for your quick reply! Yes, please tell me some details. I'm particulary interested if it works on the new mac os 10.5 leopard! I'm looking on Toast 8 Titanium site: http://www.roxio.com/enu/products/toast/titanium/features.html but i can't see anywhere if it can make a hibry disc.. Regards, Alex This email sent to rcohen.lists(a)gmail.com This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: how to make a hybrid disc?
by Alexander von Below 06 Nov '07

06 Nov '07

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