November 2007 - Installer-dev

Re: how to make a hybrid disc?
by Peter Mulholland 06 Nov '07

06 Nov '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hello Alex, Tuesday, November 6, 2007, 9:21:14 AM, you wrote: > Hello everyone! > > Could someone recommend a good software that i can use to make a > hybrid disc, that contains my installer package in order to install one both pc and mac platforms? > > This software should work on mac os 10.5 leopard. A hybrid format disc should not be necessary. AFAIK, Installer packages don't rely on the permissions bits, and don't rely on resource forks, so they should work just fine from an ISO9660 or UDF disc. Obviously the trick is to have the data shared between the two. Installer isn't much use for this unless you have the data outside of the Installer package, and copy the data in a postflight script. I'd advise against this as this copy could be a lengthy operation, and the user would see no progress bar activity during it. I did this for a title and had plenty of bug reports from users who reported "the installer hung" simply because the copy (decompression from 7zip actually) took a good 5 minutes, with no progress bar to show anything happening. -- Best regards, Peter mailto:darkmatter@blueyonder.co.uk _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: how to make a hybrid disc?
by Alexander von Below 06 Nov '07

06 Nov '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hello Alex, Alex Am 06.11.2007 um 10:21 schrieb Alex Ivanov: Hello everyone! This software should work on mac os 10.5 leopard. Thanks, alex __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/below%40mac.com This email sent to below(a)mac.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… I can tell you in great detail, if you want the technical details let me know -- but I am pretty sure you don't really want to know. Buring Software like Toast can burn Hybrid Disks easily, you should look into these applications. Could someone recommend a good software that i can use to make a hybrid disc, that contains my installer package in order to install one both pc and mac platforms? This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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how to make a hybrid disc?
by Alex Ivanov 06 Nov '07

06 Nov '07

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[installer-dev] New Package Maker sets things "Group Writeable"?
by Alexander von Below 04 Nov '07

04 Nov '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hello, Has anyone else noticed this? Am I missing something? Thanks Alex _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… now that Leopard is out of the box I would like to discuss the issue here on the list. I would love to move to the new Package Maker, but when trying to set up a Kernel Extension installation, it automatically makes my kext "Group Writeable", which is a "must not" for Kernel Extensions. This is regardless of the settings I set for this Contents. I have filed this in rader as 5462856 if anyone wishes to file a duplicate. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Tiger and Leopard: Quite important localization bug worth noting
by Stéphane Sudre 02 Nov '07

02 Nov '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com There's a bug in Installer.app when it comes to localization. The origin of the bug is language abbreviation (fr vs French) Detailed explanations: ---------------------- Conclusion: ----------- o The solution is either to fix Installer.app or PackageMaker 3. Workaround: ----------- Note: ----- Sure, I will file a bug report against this. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… OK, I've found the reason for the problems I was seeing in Leopard when it comes to French (and being stupid). PackageMaker 3 uses abbreviation for language names. For instance, English is labeled en by default (which to me means Ethernet more than anything else). French is labeled fr. If you build a 10.3 format package in PackageMaker with a French localization and you use the suggested fr abbreviation, when you display a License in French while running the OS in English, the buttons are displayed in English and the alert sheet is displayed in English. Then if you go inside the package and change fr.lproj to French.lproj and reopen the same package, when the License is displayed in French while running the OS in English, the buttons are displayed in French and the alert is displayed in French. C'est magique ! o There's an important localization support issue/bug in Installer.app in Tiger and Leopard. I haven't checked this on Panther or Jaguar. Rename abbreviated languages to full languages if you're affected by this issue. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Automatic generation of search tokens in packagemaker propertly list builds
by Aaron London 02 Nov '07

02 Nov '07

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[Leopard] Installer.app: Localizations support is really really strange
by Stéphane Sudre 01 Nov '07

01 Nov '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com But since my middle name is Stupid, I'm running Mac OS X in English. I then build and run the package. Sure enough Installer.app opens the package but: - the License step does not exist. -> This did not work like this with previous OS versions. Again, I build and run the package. - the alert sheet is displayed in English. -> This does not work like this with previous OS versions. But there's probably a logic behind all this. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… There are some changes in Installer.app in Leopard that look very strange (if not buggy). Let's imagine I'm French. Let's imagine that I want to create an install package that includes a French EULA and a French ReadMe. (1) So I open PackageMaker 3, create a new package, use the Interface Editor to add a License and a Read Me. - the Introduction step displays the default Welcome Message (which had been modified in Leopard) in English -> It does not work like this on 10.2.8 and 10.4.10. If French is the only available localization for the Welcome message, it's used for other languages too. So basically, it looks like that for a license to be displayed, it is required to be available in the language the user is running the OS. -> While this could be somehow fine in relation with French laws since I seem to remember reading something stating that no licenses are valid unless they are available in French, it does not explain why the French license is not displayed since it's available. Because the way it works, you can install a software without either being notified that there's an EULA. (2) OK, now since I'm just 98% stupid, I then add an English (AKA Ethernet) localization for the License. The License Step is now displayed in English. But in case you forgot, in this story I'm French and stupid, so I choose Français in the Popup Button of the License pane. I then click Continue (in 10.2.8, Continue would have been changed to Continuer, but that's changed sometimes ago, well...) and: -> I suspect that since the dialog is not displayed in the language of the EULA, agreeing to the License will not be considered valid by the law but IANAL. In all previous OS versions, at least this dialog was displayed in the language of the EULA. In my humble (and stupid) opinion, all these changes are regressions in Installer.app. This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: [installer-dev] Install only on i386?
by Stéphane Sudre 01 Nov '07

01 Nov '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com ? On jeudi, novembre 1, 2007, at 10:43 PM, Alexander von Below wrote: Hello List, Alex _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… InstallationCheck scripts or Requirements that check respectively for the return value of arch or the value of some sysctl value such as hw.byteorder (which is not an ideal value) this must be something easy that I have overlooked, but what is the best way to restrict installation to a certain processor architecture (i.e. i386)? P.S.: I know that some people react allergic to "Intel Only" software. I appreciate the concern, but please trust me: We have very good reasons for not offering a PPC version This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: [installer-dev] Install only on i386?
by Bill Coderre 01 Nov '07

01 Nov '07

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[installer-dev] Install only on i386?
by Alexander von Below 01 Nov '07

01 Nov '07

site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com Delivered-To: installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com Hello List, Alex this must be something easy that I have overlooked, but what is the best way to restrict installation to a certain processor architecture (i.e. i386)? P.S.: I know that some people react allergic to "Intel Only" software. I appreciate the concern, but please trust me: We have very good reasons for not offering a PPC version _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists.… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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