October 2012 - Installer-dev

Re: PackageMaker and 10.8
by Per Olofsson 11 Oct '12

11 Oct '12

10 okt 2012 kl. 23:01 skrev koko: > Is PackageMaker supposed to run on 10.8? If so, what is it version and where do I get it? The version in "Auxiliary Tools for Xcode - Late July 2012" works for me. I would recommend switching to Stephane Sudre's Packages or pkgbuild instead though. -- Per Olofsson, IT-service, University of Gothenburg _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Conditionally require restart
by Stephane Sudre 11 Oct '12

11 Oct '12

On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:24 AM, Andrew Keller <andrew(a)kellerfarm.com> wrote: > Hello all, > > Is it possible to conditionally require a restart for an install? Yes. > Here's my situation: > > Version 2 of my app cannot be properly unloaded without a shutdown, but version 3 can. > > So, for a fresh install, nothing exists, so just install the software without a restart. If you are installing 3.0.1 and 3.0.0 is installed, a restart still is not required. But, if you are installing 3.x (or even any version) and 2.x is installed, a restart is required. Here is how this can be done: - make a distribution with 2 packages: one for the the payload, one of the restart action - in the payload package, do everything as usual. Do not require a restart upon a successful installation. - in the restart package: o require a restart upon a successful installation o do not install anything - in the distribution: o set a requirement for the choice corresponding to the restart package: unselect the choice when a requirement is not met (for instance a file specific to your 2.0 version is installed or you can call a shell script to do more advanced stuff that you would not be able to do via JavaScript). I don't know which minimum OS version it requires as I always thought it was not possible to prevent a restart when one of the choices required a restart whether it was selected or not. I tested this on Mac OS X 10.7. -- Packaging Resources - http://s.sudre.free.fr/Packaging.html _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: PackageMaker and 10.8
by Andrew Keller 10 Oct '12

10 Oct '12

On Oct 10, 2012, at 5:01 PM, koko wrote: > Is PackageMaker supposed to run on 10.8? If so, what is it version and where do I get it? I can't say where PackageMaker is "supposed" to be able to run, but I can say that Apple removing it from the core developer tools is a bit of a suggestion to convert to productbuild and pkgbuild. We (my company) are migrating from PackageMaker to productbuild and pkgbuild now. It's very simple for simple installs, but our install process is not normal, and figuring out how to do all we need is causing us to experience a rather steep learning curve. ~ Andrew Keller _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Conditionally require restart
by Andrew Keller 10 Oct '12

10 Oct '12

Hello all, Is it possible to conditionally require a restart for an install? Here's my situation: Version 2 of my app cannot be properly unloaded without a shutdown, but version 3 can. So, for a fresh install, nothing exists, so just install the software without a restart. If you are installing 3.0.1 and 3.0.0 is installed, a restart still is not required. But, if you are installing 3.x (or even any version) and 2.x is installed, a restart is required. Thanks, Andrew Keller _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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PackageMaker and 10.8
by koko 10 Oct '12

10 Oct '12

I am getting cross-wired information on PackageMaker and 10.8. On one hand I am told to get PackageMaker that will run on Mountain Lion from the Developer Auxiliary Tools download. The PackageMaker in the Auxiliary Tools dmg crashes on launch. I read on the internet people who are successfully running PackageMaker on 10.8. I read on the internet people who cannot run PackageMaker on 10.8. So, my question: Is PackageMaker supposed to run on 10.8? If so, what is it version and where do I get it? Thanks! -koko _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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User install installing in the Macintosh HD folder
by James Pritchard 10 Oct '12

10 Oct '12

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Re: Changing the default Destination Select
by Stephane Sudre 10 Oct '12

10 Oct '12

On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 9:32 PM, Brian Din <brian(a)asperasoft.com> wrote: > Hi folks, > > I have an package that goes through the Destination Select dialog, allowing > the user to select between these two options: > > 1. Install for all users of this computer > 2. Install for my only > > By default, "Install for all users of this computer" is at the top and > highlighted. > > > Is there a method of changing it to highlight "Install for me only"? > > > > For a bonus, is there a way to reverse the order that they are displayed? AFAIK, no. And the documentation (that IMHO incorrectly states that the enable_x attributes are required) does not mention this. > I looked at the distribution.dist file, but there wasn't anything obvious > that seemed to be changable. It seems if I could change the order that the > values in domains is read, it would work, except I don't know where that > code is. You can always test this idea by unflattening the distribution and modifying the domains option in the distribution script. https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/DeveloperTools/Refer… > Is my only option to write a custom installer plugin and ignore > the built in destination select? This would not be a real alternative as you would then have to implement the famous "install in temporary location then move" solution when the domains option would install things directly and hopefully file the correct information in the receipts database. -- Packaging Resources - http://s.sudre.free.fr/Packaging.html _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Complex Installer
by Bill Coderre 10 Oct '12

10 Oct '12

man pkgbuild man productbuild These are "THE FUTURE" If you wish to get down and dirty and poke around yourself, try this: pkgutil --expand foo.pkg foo.pkgsrc Lookie lookie, make changes pkgutil --flatten foo.pkgsrc foo.pkg (pkgsrc is an arbitrary extension that some people use. The thing made is a folder.) On Oct 9, 2012, at 6:31 AM, Andrew Keller <andrew(a)kellerfarm.com> wrote: > Until then, I just need to get the installer working without PackageMaker. Is there any documentation that explains how to include install scripts? _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Changing the default Destination Select
by Brian Din 09 Oct '12

09 Oct '12

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Re: Complex Installer
by Andrew Keller 09 Oct '12

09 Oct '12

On Oct 8, 2012, at 6:46 PM, Stephane Sudre wrote: > On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:34 PM, Andrew Keller <andrew(a)kellerfarm.com> wrote: > >> This application is not currently on the App Store, but we intend to migrate in that direction in the future. Some of the documentation I have read regarding packaging has suggested using pkgutil for generating component packages when appropriate, and using productbuild to wrap them all together. However, the man page for pkgutil says that if you intend to distribute on the App Store, you should not use pkgutil and instead use productbuild directly. However, I'm having the previously mentioned issues. What general architecture should I be going toward if I would like to be compatible with the App Store? > > As long as you have a kext and a launchd daemon, you can forget about > the Mac App Store. > > If your application can work without them, then you just need to use > Xcode to create the package and upload it for review/release. Interesting. That explains the lack of documentation for my goal. I'll keep the App Store on the back burner until this project gets some momentum again. Until then, I just need to get the installer working without PackageMaker. Is there any documentation that explains how to include install scripts? Thanks, Andrew Keller _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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