October 2012 - Installer-dev

Re: Complex Installer
by Stephane Sudre 08 Oct '12

08 Oct '12

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:34 PM, Andrew Keller <andrew(a)kellerfarm.com> wrote: > Good day, [...] > This application is not currently on the App Store, but we intend to migrate in that direction in the future. Some of the documentation I have read regarding packaging has suggested using pkgutil for generating component packages when appropriate, and using productbuild to wrap them all together. However, the man page for pkgutil says that if you intend to distribute on the App Store, you should not use pkgutil and instead use productbuild directly. However, I'm having the previously mentioned issues. What general architecture should I be going toward if I would like to be compatible with the App Store? As long as you have a kext and a launchd daemon, you can forget about the Mac App Store. If your application can work without them, then you just need to use Xcode to create the package and upload it for review/release. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Possible to install an IOKit driver without rebooting?
by Greg Neagle 08 Oct '12

08 Oct '12

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Complex Installer
by Andrew Keller 08 Oct '12

08 Oct '12

Good day, I am trying to migrate a build script away from using PackageMaker. The app has three components: a kernel extension, a daemon, and a normal desktop application. Including the desktop application in the package seems to be easy, however the kernel extension and the daemon require abilities that I cannot figure out how to handle. 1) Before installing the software, any previous version of the kernel extension or the daemon should be unloaded (kextunload / launchctl unload). After the install, the new kernel extension and the new daemon should be loaded (kextload / launchctl load). I have seen many references to install scripts (preupgrade and postinstall seem useful in this case), but I cannot figure out how to actually include them in the installer package. How is that done? 2) When synthesizing components, the productbuild command seems to only accept bundles as things to install. This causes a problem with the daemon - both itself and its launchd configuration file are simple files. What is the proper way to install such files? This application is not currently on the App Store, but we intend to migrate in that direction in the future. Some of the documentation I have read regarding packaging has suggested using pkgutil for generating component packages when appropriate, and using productbuild to wrap them all together. However, the man page for pkgutil says that if you intend to distribute on the App Store, you should not use pkgutil and instead use productbuild directly. However, I'm having the previously mentioned issues. What general architecture should I be going toward if I would like to be compatible with the App Store? Thanks, Andrew Keller _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Possible to install an IOKit driver without rebooting?
by Brian Kendall 08 Oct '12

08 Oct '12

On Oct 8, 2012, at 3:00 PM, Bill Coderre <bc(a)apple.com> wrote: > This has turned into a question about kexts, not installers, and I doubt anyone here can help (maybe someone will surprise me!). > > If you don't get help, ask DTS. That's where I'm going to next. (I figure I'll also give darwin-drivers a try.) I figured there was an outside chance someone here knew about this since it involves installing a driver without rebooting. > My guess is, "You can't," but I am only barely conversant with kext magic. On Oct 8, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Greg Neagle <greg.neagle(a)disneyanimation.com> wrote: > I'm betting you can't. I'm almost positive there's a way to do it - I just recently installed a 3rd party driver that didn't require a reboot. - Brian _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Possible to install an IOKit driver without rebooting?
by Bill Coderre 08 Oct '12

08 Oct '12

This has turned into a question about kexts, not installers, and I doubt anyone here can help (maybe someone will surprise me!). If you don't get help, ask DTS. My guess is, "You can't," but I am only barely conversant with kext magic. On Oct 8, 2012, at 10:22 AM, Brian Kendall <guygizmo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Oct 8, 2012, at 2:56 AM, Stephane Sudre <dev.iceberg(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 6:27 AM, Brian Kendall <guygizmo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I'm working on an installer that, among other things, installs a kext for an IOKit driver. I've got it working in an installer that requires a reboot - the kext gets installed correctly and the kext cache gets rebuilt. However, I'm wondering if there's a way to do this without requiring a reboot. This installer requires 10.6 or later, so I don't have to concern myself with older versions of OS X. And if it matters, the driver doesn't actually do anything - it's a stub to prevent the default USB driver from being used. A separate daemon handles communication with the device. >>> >>> Unfortunately, in my googling so far I haven't found a clear answer. I've read this document: http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#qa/qa1319/_index.html but I don't quite follow it. Is it saying that if I'm installing an IOKit kext in 10.5 or newer, I don't have to do anything other than executing `touch /System/Library/Extensions`? >> >> And probably loading the kext with kextload from the postinstall script. > > I just gave it a try, and it almost works. After running the installer without a reboot, unplugging and plugging back in my USB device will have it load with the correct driver. In this case it doesn't matter whether or not I call kextload. > > So the question is: how can I force OS X to update which driver its using for a device without requiring the user to unplug and plug it back in manually? > > - Brian > > > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/bc%40apple.com > > This email sent to bc(a)apple.com _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Possible to install an IOKit driver without rebooting?
by Greg Neagle 08 Oct '12

08 Oct '12

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Re: Possible to install an IOKit driver without rebooting?
by Brian Kendall 08 Oct '12

08 Oct '12

On Oct 8, 2012, at 2:56 AM, Stephane Sudre <dev.iceberg(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 6:27 AM, Brian Kendall <guygizmo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I'm working on an installer that, among other things, installs a kext for an IOKit driver. I've got it working in an installer that requires a reboot - the kext gets installed correctly and the kext cache gets rebuilt. However, I'm wondering if there's a way to do this without requiring a reboot. This installer requires 10.6 or later, so I don't have to concern myself with older versions of OS X. And if it matters, the driver doesn't actually do anything - it's a stub to prevent the default USB driver from being used. A separate daemon handles communication with the device. >> >> Unfortunately, in my googling so far I haven't found a clear answer. I've read this document: http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#qa/qa1319/_index.html but I don't quite follow it. Is it saying that if I'm installing an IOKit kext in 10.5 or newer, I don't have to do anything other than executing `touch /System/Library/Extensions`? > > And probably loading the kext with kextload from the postinstall script. I just gave it a try, and it almost works. After running the installer without a reboot, unplugging and plugging back in my USB device will have it load with the correct driver. In this case it doesn't matter whether or not I call kextload. So the question is: how can I force OS X to update which driver its using for a device without requiring the user to unplug and plug it back in manually? - Brian _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Re: Possible to install an IOKit driver without rebooting?
by Stephane Sudre 08 Oct '12

08 Oct '12

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 6:27 AM, Brian Kendall <guygizmo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > I'm working on an installer that, among other things, installs a kext for an IOKit driver. I've got it working in an installer that requires a reboot - the kext gets installed correctly and the kext cache gets rebuilt. However, I'm wondering if there's a way to do this without requiring a reboot. This installer requires 10.6 or later, so I don't have to concern myself with older versions of OS X. And if it matters, the driver doesn't actually do anything - it's a stub to prevent the default USB driver from being used. A separate daemon handles communication with the device. > > Unfortunately, in my googling so far I haven't found a clear answer. I've read this document: http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#qa/qa1319/_index.html but I don't quite follow it. Is it saying that if I'm installing an IOKit kext in 10.5 or newer, I don't have to do anything other than executing `touch /System/Library/Extensions`? And probably loading the kext with kextload from the postinstall script. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Getting know if Installer is failed
by Satyanarayana Chebrolu 08 Oct '12

08 Oct '12

Hi, Is there a way to knowing if the installation is failed due to some reason?? i.e If the installation is failed, I would like to launch some troubleshooting URL in a browser. Thanks in advance. Satya. This email and any attachments are confidential, and may be legally privileged and protected by copyright. If you are not the intended recipient dissemination or copying of this email is prohibited. If you have received this in error, please notify the sender by replying by email and then delete the email completely from your system. Any views or opinions are solely those of the sender. This communication is not intended to form a binding contract unless expressly indicated to the contrary and properly authorised. Any actions taken on the basis of this email are at the recipient's own risk. _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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Possible to install an IOKit driver without rebooting?
by Brian Kendall 08 Oct '12

08 Oct '12

Hello, I'm working on an installer that, among other things, installs a kext for an IOKit driver. I've got it working in an installer that requires a reboot - the kext gets installed correctly and the kext cache gets rebuilt. However, I'm wondering if there's a way to do this without requiring a reboot. This installer requires 10.6 or later, so I don't have to concern myself with older versions of OS X. And if it matters, the driver doesn't actually do anything - it's a stub to prevent the default USB driver from being used. A separate daemon handles communication with the device. Unfortunately, in my googling so far I haven't found a clear answer. I've read this document: http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#qa/qa1319/_index.html but I don't quite follow it. Is it saying that if I'm installing an IOKit kext in 10.5 or newer, I don't have to do anything other than executing `touch /System/Library/Extensions`? Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated! - Brian _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Installer-dev mailing list (Installer-dev(a)lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/installer-dev/site_archiver%40lists… This email sent to site_archiver(a)lists.apple.com

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