Re: dialogue database in cinema tools
Re: dialogue database in cinema tools
- Subject: Re: dialogue database in cinema tools
- From: Rainer Standke <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 09:33:06 -0700
Just out of curiosity, did you ever consider merging the clips, as in
Modify/Merge Clips?
What database are you using? Cinema Tools? FileMaker?
Looks like one way to solve your problem is to do this with all
subclips of your project:
- load in viewer
- go to first frame
- Reveal source file
- press tab twice, press CMD-C to copy the audio TC
- go to your database and paste
If this sounds laborious it is because it is. However, you can do all
of this on the keyboard, possibly with the aid of something like
Quickeys.
Rainer
On Jun 3, 2009, at 10:47 , email@hidden wrote:
Hi Rainer,
Thanks for your quick response.
Interestingly enough, when I started doing dailies for this project
months ago, I sunk up the separate video and audio on the FCP
timeline. Then linked the video and audio together under modify and
dragged the merged clips into a bin. This worked until the editor
started editing and using the dynamic trim function. The FCP would
get confused because the audio was longer duration than the video
clip. I then learned that I had to double clip the linked video and
audio from the timeline into the viewer and make a subclip (com + u)
to browser bin.
This then truncated and squared off the video and audio making them
both the same duration. The editor could then use the dynamic trim
function. In the Avid, this is easily done for you, but in FCP it
takes several steps to sync up these dailies.
I would welcome you or anybody else to make this procedure more
efficient. I encourage you to write an application that would fix
this, however, I don't have any budget. I have already completed
dailies for this project, but future projects it would be useful. It
would only strengthen the FCP vs Avid debate toward FCP. This should
be fixed in future versions of FCP.
At the moment, I'm trying to create an audio database, so that I can
hand the sound over to sound editors to do their craftwork.
Best regards,
Jim Garrett
assistant editor on The Hole
--- On Tue, 6/2/09, Rainer Standke <email@hidden> wrote:
From: Rainer Standke <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: dialogue database in cinema tools
To: "James Garrett" <email@hidden>
Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 8:49 PM
Hi Jim,
this is off-list. What are you doing with the dailies once you've
synched them in the timeline? Do you make a merged clip?
Would your problem be solved if you could import a batch list with
audio time codes into Cinema Tools?
If so, a possible solution is to export an XML of the merged clips,
and extract a batch list out of that.
If you have little bit of a budget I can make you a little
application that would do that for you.
Either way, let me know what you do once you have synched dailes.
Rainer Standke
P.S. This is me: www.xmil.biz
On Jun 2, 2009, at 13:05 , James Garrett wrote:
> Hi,
> Is there anyone out there that knows how to create an audio
production track database from a separate Broadcast wave files
source? I'm working on a 3D feature movie on FCP. It was shot on a
3D RED camera setup and separate TC audio wave files. I get proxie
ProRes 422 (sq) video files and separate audio Broadcast Wave Files
that I sync up on the timeline. I'm using FCP version 6.05. The
cinema tools doesn't allow me to make an automatic database. I have
to enter the TC numbers and sound roll information manually through
Synchronize with Cinema Tools from the Tools menu. When I try to
make a Audio EDL from Program database, there isn't any database
unless I create one manually. In feature production, it is very
useful to have a Audio EDL to hand over to sound editors for
production track cleanup and replacement. The Current version of
Cinema tools is outdated. It was created for the telecine dailies
from film and audio tracks. With current production being done on
digital media with separate video and audio, the cinema tools needs
to be modernized.
>
> Please let me know or point me in the right direction to correct
this deficiency. I would like to be able to make an audio EDL
automatically from a database that can be made automatically.
>
> Thank you,
> Jim Garrett
> assistant editor on the Hole
>
> --- On Mon, 6/1/09, Ky Hopwood <email@hidden> wrote:
>
> From: Ky Hopwood <email@hidden>
> Subject: Re: Auto Save
> To: "Antony Fetigan" <email@hidden>
> Cc: "Pro-Apps-Dev" <email@hidden>
> Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 6:28 AM
>
> Antony
>
> I have never heard or seen anything like this and I cannot
conceive how it would happen.
> The autosave code is identical to the normal save code. If there
is a problem in one, I would expect a problem in both.
>
> I know this is not much help. Is this happening on all yoru FCP
stations, or just one specific one?
>
> Ky Hopwood
>
> On Jun 1, 2009, at 6:23 AM, Antony Fetigan wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> I have been experiencing some strange behavior with regards to
the Auto Save function. Basically the projects saved in Auto Save
are not correct, they are missing bins, clips and parts of the
sequence, what is also strange is that earlier version of the same
project from the same Auto Save location are more up to date and
contain more info than the newer version.
>>
>> Wondering if anybody had any ideas why this might be or if they
have seen this kind of problem before?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Antony Fetigan
>> Engineering Manager
>> Final Cut
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