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Re: little rant 1.4 and WO
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Re: little rant 1.4 and WO


  • Subject: Re: little rant 1.4 and WO
  • From: James Mooney <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 11:48:12 -0500

Mike

I appreciate with your reply if this were open source. I have the ability to scruntinize the code and know full well ahead of time that I am on my own. My point is that there appears to be a failure of timely communication( a minor issue in this case). Had the post on this list appeared prior to the official release via the software updater, I would not have bothered downloading the update and waited for the WO patch. Now I step on glass not knowing if I am going to get cut or not. Apple has on a regular basis posted software updates on the web site and then after a couple of days, includes it into the auto updater. During this period, news has a chance to make the rounds of the impact of the new software on existing platforms and products.

I applaud Apple for getting this new version out. I also applaud them for being on the ball to get a patch out. Timing and communication, in my opinion, were anemic. That is my point. A timely heads up of a potential problem is all I am looking for. Heck, would it be too much to ask that since Apple knew there were issues, that the installer checked the system first to determine whether WO was installed and if so.....to flag the user of issues. << that would be smart, professional, and classy.

Jim




On Wednesday, March 12, 2003, at 10:57 AM, Mike Little wrote:

I have to respectfully disagree....

Web application server environments are by their nature complex and made up a variety of different products. Web server, application server, database server, directory server etc. The ultimate responsibility of verifying compatibility clearly lies with the solution provider(you) and not a product vendor. Components of a solution should be assumed to be incompatible, until verified and officially supported by the vendors (assuming your solution isn't an ad hoc configuration) and then by the solution providers.

Apple never said WO 5.2 and Java 1.4.1 were compatible with one another... And until they do, they aren't.

Mike

On Wednesday, March 12, 2003, at 09:44AM, James Mooney <email@hidden> wrote:

It would seem prudent that there are a couple of ways to inform WO
users of this issue of incompatibility.

The current list post from Webobject is a little too late.

I saw the update and allowed it be installed on my machine. I read the
blurps noted in the update and saw no mention of issues with WO. It
would have been helpful to have at least a notice in the installer
update that WO and 1.4 are not yet ready to be married. Update at your
own risk.....


Something along those lines would have been a responsible move. I
checked postings on this list and this is the first time in two days of
an official position on compatibility.


Was someone asleep at the wheel? There is no logic in posting a
software update when it jeopardizes the integrity of a working product
in the same family in which the update is derived. So my installation
is potentially hosed. Could you please post the procedures to bring my
system back into a stable product. I also downloaded the developer
tools update as well. How do I go back two days? If this is not
possible, could you please post reported troubled areas that are
currently reported as known issues? Water I should not tread on so to
speak.


Jim
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