Re: So what is a good approach to learning WebObjects?
Re: So what is a good approach to learning WebObjects?
- Subject: Re: So what is a good approach to learning WebObjects?
- From: Lambert Fooks <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:40:25 -0800
Hi ALice,
A roadmap eh? Well I think getting a good handle on Java is key... Then do the WO Apple tutorials.
I recommend going through the JAVA 2 certification book (McGraw Hill/Osbourne publisher). As you will get the core knowledge you really need to know and understand about Java even it you are not interested in becoming a certified Java a programmer.
Then do the Thinking in Java book.. Then do the Web applications tutorial then the EO modeler tutorial. Brush up on your database fundamentals as needed. It may sound like alot but it really isn't just be consistent on a daily basis..even if all you have is 30min.
I wouldn;t bother with the WO books out there until I complete the steps mentioned above. Most of those will provide decent reference material. Know Java first.
Lambert
On Saturday, November 15, 2003, at 08:10PM, Alice Oaks <email@hidden> wrote:
>I've been at this for a few weeks now but I feel like I'm going around in
>circles, so I thought I should stop and ask for directions. :)
>
>I started out with Josh Marker's new book, but it's not really intended for
>beginners. That is, it gives copious detail on how to do things, but it's
>not organized in a tutorial fashion (nor was it intended to be) so you have
>to know what you're looking for.
>
>I then switched to Apple's Getting Started with WebObjects tutorial. I got
>through the first part ok (the guest book) but got stuck on the Movie app
>because you have to set it up with the Application Wizard which doesn't seem
>to exist in Xcode.
>
>So I went and bought Ravi Mendis' book. It reminds me a lot of some of
>those week-long intensive training courses I got sent to back when I was
>working for a big company. You can follow along and produce something that
>works, but there's not enough information on *why* you are doing things.
>You just type along, following the bouncing ball. He also fades the detail
>a bit too quickly; some of the steps need more explanation than they have.
>
>Ideally, I'd like a book that combines the organization of the Mendis book
>with the explanatory detail of the Marker book. Even better would be one
>that is accurate (I've already run into one spot in the Mendis book where
>I'm supposed to rebind a variable I can't find the instructions for
>creating); there's nothing more frustrating than not knowing if you screwed
>up or the book is just wrong.
>
>Does such a book exist? Is there some other Apple documentation I should be
>reading? Or am I on the wrong track altogether?
>
>My background looks like this: lots of web development but using scripting
>languages, so my thinking is still fairly procedural. I'm very comfortable
>with databases and SQL; we currently use Oracle and Postgres extensively.
>No Java experience but I was a C++ programmer once upon a time, so I can
>read most Java code and understand what it's doing though I may need a bit
>of study before I can write my own.
>
>A roadmap to finding the right information in the right order would be much
>appreciated!
>
>Thanks,
>
>Alice
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