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Re: Eclipse/WOLips vs. Project Builder
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Re: Eclipse/WOLips vs. Project Builder


  • Subject: Re: Eclipse/WOLips vs. Project Builder
  • From: Chuck Hill <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 20:04:45 -0700

Hi Bob,

At 03:17 PM 10/10/2003 -0700, Bob McCormick wrote:
>
>I work on both platforms - but am doing this current project on XServes
>hence the WO.  I do primarily .NET on the Windows side - so platform
>isn't as much an issue since deployment of WO can go pretty much
>anywhere.  Also, finding that BSD on OSX makes for a REALLY NICE
>development platform as long as you're doing anything but .NET.
>
:-)

>I'm
>very close to being a Switched User. I just want to use the tool that
>makes the most sense - if this means that PB is it, fine by me.  Just
>want to use the best tool for the job.  I use Visual Studio on Windows
>for .NET development not because it's Microsoft, but because it truly
>is a NICE IDE that saves tons of time.  (MS Flamers - save it for
>another day)
>
No flames here.  I've used MS IDEs and, for the most part, I've been
impressed.  I just wish they put as much thought and case into their word
processor...


>Basically - I'm most interested in hearing what others are using and
>why - understanding that on Windows one should just simply use Eclipse
>and be done with it.  Also, I realize that we're about to see this
>XCode environment come online via Panther and so of course this makes
>me wonder what changes if any are coming down the pipe.
>
I don't know what is coming down the pipe...  My reasons for using Eclipse
on OS X and Windows are:

- use on Windows needs no explanation  ;-)
- tons of productivity features that PB lacks
- lots of very useful 3rd party plugins that PB lacks
- WOLips team is very, very responsive to fixing bugs
- WOLips team constantly adding new features
- use of Ant rather than Jam for build extensions (Ant is very nice indeed)
- your development environment does not break when Apple releases updates
not tested against WO
- same project format and IDE regardless of which machine you happen to be
sitting at
- very easy to extend Eclipse with your own plugins

XCode may change some of this, I don't know.

The advantages I see to using PB or XCode are:

- is that it is Apple supported.  So far, compared to Eclipse/WOLips that
has not seemed like much of an advantage
- it is a bit speedier than some of the navigation in the Eclipse GUI, but
the Eclipse GUI is not really that slow
- future changes in the WO tools may result in incompatability with
Eclipse/WOLips until the WOLips team retools.  That, IMHO, is the biggest
risk to using Eclipse/WOLips.


Chuck






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Chuck Hill                                 email@hidden
Global Village Consulting Inc.             http://www.global-village.net
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References: 
 >Re: Eclipse/WOLips vs. Project Builder (From: David Holt <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Eclipse/WOLips vs. Project Builder (From: Bob McCormick <email@hidden>)

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