Re: Anything new on the Horizon of Webobjects
Re: Anything new on the Horizon of Webobjects
- Subject: Re: Anything new on the Horizon of Webobjects
- From: Marek Wawrzyczny <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:31:01 +1100
Just my vote on this.
All I can say is heaven forbid that Apple bound WO or EOF to Cocoa.
Yes Cocoa is faster, yes Cocoa is prettier but in the end Cocoa is
Apple and in the ideal world 90%+ of computers are Windows (whether we
don't like it or don't like it). At the end of the day it is the
clients that will dictate what environment the program-to-be will
operate in. Try to factor in the cost of upgrading the organizations
entire computer base into your coding estimates... you will not get too
far.
Fine, let Apple tightly integrate Cocoa into EOF but not at the expanse
of multi-platform deployment. This is one of WO's strengths at the
moment.
On Thursday, Oct 30, 2003, at 10:33 Australia/Sydney, Ricardo Strausz
wrote:
<...>
But was there anything else to expect from such a secretive
organization as Apple? This lack of communication could be construed
in three ways:
(A) Snobbism vis-a-vis their very own user base.
(B) Don't care one way or another.
(C) Don't have a clue in the first place.
In any case, here is my very own playful "Road Map" fantasy :)
(1) Migrate out of the Foundation legacy.
Most of what can be found in com.webobjects.foundation serves no
purpose whatsoever aside from ego inflation and intellectual
masturbation. Clumsily pretending to support ancient legacy projects
is not the way to go forward.
Better: they should use com.apple.cocoa.foundation.* insteed.
It is a problem to have so many foundations...
<...>
(3) Migrate out of the AppKit legacy
It's time for WebObjects supporting cast of midly amusing clowns (PB,
EOModeler, WOBuilder & Co) to move out from the AppKit legacy. Move
to Swing or SWT. Better yet, provide integration with mainstream
third parties (e.g Eclipse and such).
Had you build a Cocoa app?? come on!! Swing is a SLOW tourtle bisides
Cocoa's AppKit.
And what about the VERY usefull makeKeyAndOrderFront method (which is
missing in Swing). There's no way Swing can compit with Cocoa...
(4) Reuse
Apple is a small company. WebObjects is a minor product. Its
development team fits in the cupboard of a small minivan. They cannot
do everything.
For instance, synchronization across multiple instance of WOApps is
not properly handled. Leveraging Java Message Service or other
communication toolkits (e.g. Javagroups) could help.
No comments. I do Cocoa/EOF most of the time.
<...>
Marek Wawrzyczny
software engineer
-------------------------->
ish group pty ltd
7 Darghan St Glebe 2037 Australia
phone +61 2 9660 1400 fax +61 2 9660 7400
http www.ish.com.au | email email@hidden
_______________________________________________
webobjects-dev mailing list | email@hidden
Help/Unsubscribe/Archives: http://www.lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/webobjects-dev
Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored.