Re: Java Client tutorials and books
Re: Java Client tutorials and books
- Subject: Re: Java Client tutorials and books
- From: Ed Powell <email@hidden>
- Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 16:07:51 -0500
I've got Joshua Marker's "WebObjects for Mac OS X", and its a very good
book... for developing web applications. I was hoping for information
more pertient to making Java Client apps (i.e. Java programs that run
on your desktop using the Swing toolkit).
On Apr 10, 2004, at 7:16 AM, Jonathan Fleming wrote:
Title: Professional WebObjects 5.0 With Java
Publisher: Wrox
Author: Too Many To Mention, 13 in all
ISBN: 1-861004-31-1
Search http://www.wrox.com or http://www.amazon.com
This book has a little about Java Client but I would imagine that
everything else it teaches you about WebObjects would be a foundation
for it. As it says in the opening of it's chapter "Every Java Client
application is at its core a WebObjects application". I've never used
Java Client myself but I've read elsewhere that it is very powerful
and under-estimated by developers.
This is the best of the two books that I know has anything substatial
on it (chapter 12, 19 pages) which gives you a a one week senario of
getting a Java Client up and running for an ecommerce company.
However, there are only five WebObjects books that I know about.
Title: WebObjects For Mac OS X
Publisher: Peachpit Press
Author: Joshua Marker
ISBN: 0-321-11549-x
This is the latest book, it's a very good reference book with lots of
helpful hints and tips included with clear visual screen shots and
source code to boot. If this book was out three years ago I'm certain
it wouldn't have taken me so long to get going with my understanding
of WebObjects, but then again I didn't even know what Java was a that
time. Oh yeah, all these books here have helped me, a complete novice,
learn so much in a relatively short space of time, and I really did
not know a thing. If wasn't for this list ironing problems out, I'd
probably still be on the Construction Kit book.
Title: WebObjects Developer's Guide
Publisher: Sams
Author: Ravi Mendis
ISBN: 0-672-32326-5
Would be a very good book if it wasn't for the untold amount of errors
that are in the examples as well as the source code of this book, but
having said that when you do hit those stumbling blocks you soon begin
to learn and take on the WebObjects frustration. The thing with this
book is that it kind of fast tracks you to where you want to go and
then it halts you abruptly and you'd be pulling your hair out for
days... I can't even begin to describe the relief and joy when you get
over them. It did come with source code that you could download from
the publishers site but it may be gone now. However, don't disspare,
if anyone wants it I'll send it. I'm sure that'll be OK.
Title: WebObjects Web Application Construction Kit
Publisher: Sams
Author: George Ruzek
ISBN: 0-672-32074-6
This might have been the first one out there, it's written for version
4.5 just before the change to Java, but it still holds true to the
WebObjects priciples to date. Very good beginners book.
Title: Building WebObjects5
Publisher: Osbourne
Author: Jesse Feiler
ISBN: 0-07-213088-1
Personally I found it hard to get going with this book, but that's
only because I learn by example and need something or someone that can
show me how rather delving me deep into the concepts of a thing by
academia. And that's just what this book is about, it's very good
about the way it goes into the concepts of how things are and are
meant to be. It covers everything from the database(OpenBase) to the
deployment of your app, but don't look for hard and fast examples
here, they are few and far between - snipets, those that are leave you
a little vague and you'll realise this in retrospect when you do know
a thing or two. by then though you'll understand that it is quite an
informative litte book... brrr too late. The worst part of this book
is the very shoddy take off of the Think Movies Application -
dissapointing (tut, tut, tut), but there is about 17 pages on Java
Client here in chapter 23. Again it's more about the concepts than it
is about show-how.
Chuck Hill, one of the respected heavy weights on list has a book
coming out within the next year hopfully, and I'm sure that is going
to be eagarly awaited. I'm looking forward to that. I'm sure He'll
have a chaper on the subject, but by then you'd have learn it and will
probably be cursing when you get it that if you have that book a year
ago, you would have been flying, inm sure.
Good luck anyways
Jonathan :^)
From: Ed Powell <email@hidden>
To: email@hidden
Subject: Java Client tutorials and books
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 02:59:50 -0500
Can anyone recommend a good book or place to get tutorials for
developing Java Client applications? Apple's manual is,
unsurprisingly, a bit hard to digest.
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Ed Powell - "Meus Navis Aerius est Plena Anguillarum"
http://www.visi.com/~epowell
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