Re: Java Client tutorials and books
Re: Java Client tutorials and books
- Subject: Re: Java Client tutorials and books
- From: "Jonathan Fleming" <email@hidden>
- Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 00:53:11 +0100
From: Ed Powell <email@hidden>
To: "Jonathan Fleming" <email@hidden>
CC: email@hidden, email@hidden
Subject: Re: Java Client tutorials and books
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 16:07:51 -0500
I've got Joshua Marker's "WebObjects for Mac OS X", and its a very good
book... for developing web applications. I was hoping for information more
pertient to making Java Client apps (i.e. Java programs that run on your
desktop using the Swing toolkit).
I realise this but I think you're going to be cold out of luck here. Your
best bet is the very in depth book that comes with WebObjects 5 called "Java
Client Desktop Application", that's if it's not the documentation you have
already been reading of course, it seems as though that has all you need to
know.
Including the Introduction it has chapters on:
Java Client Concepts; Building A Simple Application; Inside Assistant; The
Distribution Layer; Enhancing The Application; Nondirect Java Client
Development; Building Custom Controllers With XML; Deploying Client
Applications; Redirecting Access to an Application; Generating Controllers
With the Controller Factory; Adding Custom Menu Items, Adding Custom Actions
to Controllers; Common Rules; Freezing XML User Interfaces; Mixing Static
and Dynamic User Interfaces; Using Custom Views in Nib Files; Using and
Expending Image Views in Nib Files; Using Pop-up Menus in Nib Files;
Localizing Dynamic Components;
Using HTML on the Client; Building a Login Window, finishing with Appendix A
Document Revision History.
Maybe if you do a search on Apple's developers site or google using these
headings you might just turn up some good stuff. Maybe Apple has this book
on line.
Kind regards
Jonathan :^)
On Apr 10, 2004, at 7:16 AM, Jonathan Fleming wrote:
Title: Professional WebObjects 5.0 With Java
Publisher: Wrox
Author: Too Many To Mention, 13 in all
ISBN: 1-861004-31-1
Search http://www.wrox.com or http://www.amazon.com
This book has a little about Java Client but I would imagine that
everything else it teaches you about WebObjects would be a foundation for
it. As it says in the opening of it's chapter "Every Java Client
application is at its core a WebObjects application". I've never used Java
Client myself but I've read elsewhere that it is very powerful and
under-estimated by developers.
This is the best of the two books that I know has anything substatial on
it (chapter 12, 19 pages) which gives you a a one week senario of getting
a Java Client up and running for an ecommerce company. However, there are
only five WebObjects books that I know about.
Title: WebObjects For Mac OS X
Publisher: Peachpit Press
Author: Joshua Marker
ISBN: 0-321-11549-x
This is the latest book, it's a very good reference book with lots of
helpful hints and tips included with clear visual screen shots and source
code to boot. If this book was out three years ago I'm certain it wouldn't
have taken me so long to get going with my understanding of WebObjects,
but then again I didn't even know what Java was a that time. Oh yeah, all
these books here have helped me, a complete novice, learn so much in a
relatively short space of time, and I really did not know a thing. If
wasn't for this list ironing problems out, I'd probably still be on the
Construction Kit book.
Title: WebObjects Developer's Guide
Publisher: Sams
Author: Ravi Mendis
ISBN: 0-672-32326-5
Would be a very good book if it wasn't for the untold amount of errors
that are in the examples as well as the source code of this book, but
having said that when you do hit those stumbling blocks you soon begin to
learn and take on the WebObjects frustration. The thing with this book is
that it kind of fast tracks you to where you want to go and then it halts
you abruptly and you'd be pulling your hair out for days... I can't even
begin to describe the relief and joy when you get over them. It did come
with source code that you could download from the publishers site but it
may be gone now. However, don't disspare, if anyone wants it I'll send it.
I'm sure that'll be OK.
Title: WebObjects Web Application Construction Kit
Publisher: Sams
Author: George Ruzek
ISBN: 0-672-32074-6
This might have been the first one out there, it's written for version 4.5
just before the change to Java, but it still holds true to the WebObjects
priciples to date. Very good beginners book.
Title: Building WebObjects5
Publisher: Osbourne
Author: Jesse Feiler
ISBN: 0-07-213088-1
Personally I found it hard to get going with this book, but that's only
because I learn by example and need something or someone that can show me
how rather delving me deep into the concepts of a thing by academia. And
that's just what this book is about, it's very good about the way it goes
into the concepts of how things are and are meant to be. It covers
everything from the database(OpenBase) to the deployment of your app, but
don't look for hard and fast examples here, they are few and far between -
snipets, those that are leave you a little vague and you'll realise this
in retrospect when you do know a thing or two. by then though you'll
understand that it is quite an informative litte book... brrr too late.
The worst part of this book is the very shoddy take off of the Think
Movies Application - dissapointing (tut, tut, tut), but there is about 17
pages on Java Client here in chapter 23. Again it's more about the
concepts than it is about show-how.
Chuck Hill, one of the respected heavy weights on list has a book coming
out within the next year hopfully, and I'm sure that is going to be
eagarly awaited. I'm looking forward to that. I'm sure He'll have a chaper
on the subject, but by then you'd have learn it and will probably be
cursing when you get it that if you have that book a year ago, you would
have been flying, inm sure.
Good luck anyways
Jonathan :^)
From: Ed Powell <email@hidden>
To: email@hidden
Subject: Java Client tutorials and books
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 02:59:50 -0500
Can anyone recommend a good book or place to get tutorials for developing
Java Client applications? Apple's manual is, unsurprisingly, a bit hard
to digest.
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Ed Powell - "Meus Navis Aerius est Plena Anguillarum"
http://www.visi.com/~epowell
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