Re: WO as a J2EE dev. tool
Re: WO as a J2EE dev. tool
- Subject: Re: WO as a J2EE dev. tool
- From: arturo <email@hidden>
- Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 12:41:13 -0500
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Ekhaus" <email@hidden>
To: <email@hidden>
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 10:46 AM
Subject: WO as a J2EE dev. tool
> hi
>
> on a scale of 1 to 10 (10 being excellent), how would one rate WO as a
J2EE dev. tool ?
IME, using the scale where Eclipse is a 8.5 for J2EE development (IntelliJ
is by all reports better),
I would probably give the WO suite a 6 or 7. This suite would be Xcode, WO
Builder, and EOModeler.
The components have their own score like so: Xcode 5, WOB 6, EOM 9.
However, I don't believe WO claims to be a J2EE development environment. It
uses some J2EE technologies
and can be deployed into such an environment but I don't think it is such an
environment.
For general dynamic Website development I would give the suite an 8 or 9.
This is because the
direct to web technologies are a 15 on the scale you've chosen.
>
> what are its competitors ?
It's competitors used to be WebLogic, WebSphere, Bluestone Sapphire,
Silverstream, NetDynamics Fusion(?). But
with the market consolidation into J2EE (WebLogic, WebSphere, JBoss) and
everyone else I would say "Everyone else."
More specific competitors are Toplink (now owned by Oracle), EJB in general.
> what are its advantages and disadvantages ?
Advantages:
Nothing else like DirectToWeb. Once you get the hang of it your
productivity skyrockets.
Very mature O/R toolset.
Very mature framework set.
Robust toolset for creating reuseable components. These are somewhat
like tag libraries.
Interesting and capable community.
Apple-provided training.
Disadvantages
Learning curve. Some say steep but I didn't experience that.
I will say that the frameworks are HUGE and have a lot of
functionality so
one can't learn it all at once.
Not 100% J2EE.
Weak offerings to compete with the likes of JSP tag libraries.
Poor book-marks score. That is, you can find 100s of books about other
things
but I think there are only 6 WO books.
It's so easy to create with that there's not a lot of 3rd party add-ons.
> i need to come up to speed on this technology and i'm exploring
> different alternatives, and i'm very interested in the experiences of
> members of this group.
I personally think it's a great technology. You can try downloading it
and trying it out. But, IME, you need someone to give a quick (15min)
tutorial on how it works before you should actually try it.
One other resource you can look at are the WWDC movies. But you may
need to buy that. You can register at http://connect.apple.com for free and
poke around.
-arturo
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