Re: Objective-C with WebObjects?
Re: Objective-C with WebObjects?
- Subject: Re: Objective-C with WebObjects?
- From: Lotsa Cabo <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 21:57:40 -0500
Chris,
Thanks for the input. My lack of desire to use two brand new languages
is strictly because of time constraints.
And I completely agree with you about sitting down face-to-face with
someone. In fact, I personally paid someone last year from California,
out my own pocket, to fly out and teach me and a friend. He was a
complete moron and basically just sucked up $3000 from me.
I'm definitely going to try and find a Mac user group here in Orlando.
Thanx,
Ryan
On Jan 26, 2004, at 6:36 PM, Chris Hanson wrote:
On Jan 26, 2004, at 11:16 AM, Lotsa Cabo wrote:
Can I use Objective-C for development with WO?
No. This is pretty clearly spelled out in the various documentation
with WebObjects 5 and later.
If not, is there one language that I can learn/use for both
service-level development as well as web development?
You can do it in Java. But the native language of the Cocoa
frameworks is Objective-C, so you'll have much better support from the
community, sample code, etc. writing native Mac OS X applications with
it.
I need to build a project from start to finish. This project has a
web front-end and several services that will need to run in the
background. I had planned on using WebObjects to build the front
end. However, someone on another list said that Objective-C is what
I will need to use to do the services. I would just hate to use
learn/use two separate languages to do this.
Why would you hate to have to learn or use two separate languages?
They both have their strong points and you'll be a better programmer
for knowing and having some experience with both.
However, depending on what these "services" are (do you mean daemons?)
you probably don't need to use Objective-C for it. You might be able
to more easily implement it in straight C, C++, Python, Java, Ruby,
Perl... Or it might be easiest to build in Objective-C. Use the best
tool for the job.
From reading your various posts, it sounds like it would probably be
worth your time to just sit down for a few hours with an experienced
Mac OS X and WebObjects developer and go over what you want to do and
see how they would do things. You can probably find someone willing
to do this with you through your local Mac user group or local
developer organization.
In the Chicago area, there are a couple: CAWUG, the Cocoa and
WebObjects User Group that meets at the Michigan Ave. Apple Store; and
PSIG, the Programming SIG associated with the Northwest of Us user
group that meets at the NWoU office in Palatine. In the San Francisco
Bay Area there's BANG. In the Pittsburgh area there's CocoaHeads.
They're everywhere...
-- Chris
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