Re: [Wonder-disc] D2W(onder) Sample Sites?
Re: [Wonder-disc] D2W(onder) Sample Sites?
- Subject: Re: [Wonder-disc] D2W(onder) Sample Sites?
- From: Ashley Aitken <email@hidden>
- Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 23:52:55 +0800
Hi Anjo (et al.),
Thanks for your post.
On 09/05/2004, at 10:58 PM, Anjo Krank wrote:
Am 09.05.2004 um 12:22 schrieb Ashley Aitken:
I do show people the PageWrapper and MenuHeader and how they can be
easily changed, and talk about freezing and building your own
templates.
Really? Freezing works for you? I had strange error where the
components where empty and so on.
Well, I only said I talk about freezing (as Apple's docs talk about
freezing). I did it once, to try it out, for a standard D2W page and
it worked. As a developer, I'd personally like to not have to do it.
<rant>
I think you should try to avoid freezing as much as possible: WO
components are incredibly expensive in overall maintenance. You need 5
files and one directory to take care of and when you rename them you
need to look in a bazillion of strange text files like D2WModels,
.wo's, inline Strings, Java Source and all this over a bunch of
frameworks. I wish I knew who came up with the super-bright idea to
name the .html, .wod and .woo after the Component and not with a
generic name "index.html".
</rant>
Yes, I agree with all that.
In fact, this is one of the main reasons I work with D2W: you get to
compose apps with a little CSS and one rule file.
Yes, it is very high level development. I need to get into the CSS
soon.
The only way I'd freeze a page would be to add a functionality I
couldn't place anywhere else.
I thought one may need to freeze a page for fine layout control
(excluding the use of XML and XSLT like you mention David does). For
example, my client is getting itchy about the way D2W lays out property
keys in a simple table. He wants to lay things out more like you may
with a drag-and-drop page layout tool, mostly a more compact layout
(eg in FileMaker or Access, which he has experience with :-( I tell
him Web apps are different than desktop apps ... and clear and simple
is good for Web pages).
Perhaps CSS can help?
However, it would be nice to be able to refer them to some publicly
accessible Web apss that are driven by D2W(onder) that look somewhat
different.
Can anyone give URLs for publicly accessible Web apps that were
constructed with D2W(onder)? Oh yeah, I do also mention the iTMS
(which I believe is WO and perhaps D2W/Wonder?
David has some utterly awesome stuff of which you wouldn't believe for
a second that it's D2W (or even WO). But like my things it is all
closed for the public.
...
<Lots of amazing stuff>
...
That all sounds really impressive.
I understand that these aren't public facing apps.
Cheers,
Ashley.
--
Ashley Aitken
Perth, Western Australia
mrhatken at mac dot com
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