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[OT] System wide UI hang when Eclipse running?
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  • Subject: [OT] System wide UI hang when Eclipse running?
  • From: Allen Cronce <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 08:37:43 -0700

Hi all,

A couple of months ago we purchased several new dual 1.8 Ghz G5 and 15" PowerBook systems for our office. All of the machines have been running smoothly except for mine.

On the G5 I see a system wide UI hang about once a day. I can move the mouse, but can't click on anything and the keyboard is locked out. I can SSH into the machine, but after examining a few processes and logs, nothing jumps out as the cause. The hang doesn't seem to be application specific. I've seen it in several applications, including Safari, CodeWarrior and Eclipse. I've run the hardware test and no problems show up. And I've tried removing all third party start up software. The hang still happens.

On the PowerBook I see a problem waking from sleep where I'm asked for my password, then the screen goes blank. I can move the mouse and the back light is on, but the screen is just a mass of black pixels. If I press the power button followed by the the return key, the machine goes through the normal shut down process (as you'd expect as long as there are no open changed documents). At the end just before the shut down, the desktop makes a brief appearance.

I was just to the point were I was going to contact Apple support when one of the other new G5's started exhibiting the UI hang. The only change on that system was that the developer had installed and was running Eclipse 3.0. That set off an alarm bell in my head because in every case where I've seen these problems, I've had Eclipse running.

As an experiment, we took one of our new G5's and installed Eclipse to see what would happen. This machine's hardware is identical to the others. And up till the installation of Eclipse it had been working perfectly without a single hiccup. The developer installed Eclipse and had it running in the background while using Xcode and other applications. After about a day and a half, he saw the same wake from sleep blank screen problem that I've seen on the PowerBook.

So while I realize that this is not hard evidence, it certainly feels like running Eclipse is precipitating these problems. Maybe there's some general Mac OS X Java VM problem with SWT applications. Note that all of these machines also have Xcode 1.5 and WO developer 5.2.3 installed with the latest Java VM 1.4.2_05-141 and all of Apple's software updates.

For now I've reported a bug to both the Eclipse group and Apple. But I know how tough it is to deal with these kind of random, difficult to reproduce problems.

The question for this group is have any of you seen the kinds of problems that we're seeing while Eclipse is running? If so, I'd be interested in what your hardware configuration is or any other details. Please feel free to write to me directly.

Best regards,
--
Allen Cronce

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