Re: WebObjects 5.3
Re: WebObjects 5.3
- Subject: Re: WebObjects 5.3
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- Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:14:19 -0700
This is a really big deal for us; if we can only deploy on OS X then we can't use WO at all. One of the things that attracted us to it was the platform-independence. I can understand why it would be attractive to Apple to give that up, as most of their other software products are OS X only, but this seems like a move designed, intentionally or not, to cut WO adoption off at the knees. It's probably meant to boost purchases of XServes and reduce their support burden, but those of us who have to sell this to clients know that "oh, by the way you have to purchase and support a totally new kind of server" isn't going to cut it. The purchases of XServes come *after* the WO app is already running successfully on whatever they already had in-house and everyone is impressed by how Totally Cool Apple products are.
I personally have no problem with buying a copy of OS X Server and sticking it on a shelf for each "other OS" installation I do, but some clients get very antsy about running unsupported configurations so even that is really not a great solution.
If there is an opportunity to give feedback to the WO team, I hope someone is able to make this point to them as forcefully as possible (after, of course, thanking them profusely for releasing 5.3).
janine
On Jun 7, 2005, at 2:58 PM, Ken Anderson wrote:
There was one thing clear from all the people and sessions, WO 5.3 is not SUPPORTED on any other platform but Mac OS X. Whether or not you can legally deploy on another machine was not completely clear. Most people here feel that as long as you have a deployment license (meaning, buy a copy of OS X Server), you can deploy wherever you want, but again - nothing that has been confirmed.
On Jun 7, 2005, at 2:47 PM, David Holt wrote:
Under the "Low Cost Licensing" section it says:
▪ Requires only one license per machine, regardless of platform, speed, or number of processors
Unless you know something from the "horse's mouth" that we don't ...
David
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On 7 Jun 2005, at 2:28 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
I'm pretty sure what that actually means is that you can deploy in any J2SE on _OS X_.
Chuck
On Jun 6, 2005, at 9:08 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:
Le 05-06-06, à 16:35, Pierre Bernard a écrit :
Hi!
Did anybody yet figure out if WebObjects 5.3 is a free update or a major release?
I'm currently downloading xCode 2.1. I shall see if it comes with only the tools for WO development or with a full-blown WebObjects installation.
Will 5.3 be available for other platforms. Is Windows development still supported or is it all xCode now?
Well, they updated the product page :
http://www.apple.com/webobjects/specs.html
Platforms
* Mac OS X v10.4.1with Xcode 2.1 (development)
* Mac OS X Server v10.4.1
So no dev tools on Windows. But they do says that you can deploy in any J2SE environment :
Flexible Deployment
Stand-alone J2SE server
* Runs on virtually any Java 2, Standard Edition, 1.3.1 virtual machine application
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