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Re: bosses who want to research .NET alternatives


  • Subject: Re: bosses who want to research .NET alternatives
  • From: Lucas Rockwell <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 13:50:30 -0700

On May 17, 2005, at 1:19 PM, Lucas Holt wrote:

And then you get into smaller or older:
Ruby
Perl
Python
ASP

You forgot Lisp!

http://www.paulgraham.com/iflisp.html

and

http://www.paulgraham.com/avg.html

-lucas (rockwell)

P.S. Sorry to post this on the dev list, but I couldn't resist.

On May 17, 2005, at 1:19 PM, Lucas Holt wrote:

Ted Thibodeau Jr wrote:

Not exactly.

The .NET CLR is bound to MS Windows, but producing a .NET assembly
(if done according to the ECMA standard) leaves you free to use any
CLR (Common Language Runtime), including .NET and Mono.

Mono is Ximian's implementation, now under Novell's wing, and it
supports Mac OS X, among other environments.

There may well be more CLR implementations over time.

The CLR is similar to the JVM/JRE, in many ways.

This Wikipedia article has some useful info, though it does seem
like marketing-speak in some ways --

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_.NET



Mono may someday be useful but it is not currently. It only offers a subset of the windows .NET implementation and some other additions so software written for mono or .NET might not run on the other. You are bound to C# as VB.NET is not completed. Mono also lists several supported operating systems, but in reality it only works correctly under linux. The Mac OS X build is arguably the second best. Don't even try to run it under FreeBSD!!!! In addition, in order to use mono for webapps you must setup the mono webserver and use a beta apache module to communicate. Its similar to using apache to proxy requests to a tomcat instance.

In all reality, you must deploy on a windows server. If you were careful, you might be able to develop in linux or Mac OS X. You would need to check documentation and make sure you used features supported in both mono and .NET.

Most newer web development falls into the following:
.NET (C#, VB.NET, Managed C++ (why do people use C++?) )
Java (servlets, jsp, velocity, frameworks like struts, maverick or tapestry, webobjects)
PHP


And then you get into smaller or older:
Ruby
Perl
Python
ASP
...

Luke
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 >Re: bosses who want to research .NET alternatives (From: Lucas Holt <email@hidden>)

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