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Re: New license?


  • Subject: Re: New license?
  • From: "L. Caballero" <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 02:18:08 +0200

Hello. (Another Developer with doubts)

In our company of development in Spain we have serious doubts if he is advisable to change to WebObjects, to date we do not have no document
that specifies the type of license that exists for version 5,3, and if it is possible to use it in other operating systems.


At the moment we are delaying the decision, and also we observed the capacity of adaptation of Apple for the companies.

If our developments have to consider the quota of market of Apple in Spain, so that it is necessary (obligatory, or impossible) only use WO in Systems OSX, surely we will not be able to use it since the quota is very, very small, and our company needs to pay to its workers (Consulting,
Analysts, Programmers...).


I hope that these great doubts have a fast answer (Apple in official document), or our efforts will be useless.

Thanks for your patience (Cliff and the rest of the Apple Team).

L. Caballero


El 11/10/2005, a las 22:50, David Teran escribió:

Cliff:


That's my understanding, as well. But before everyone gets too excited (too
late?) this appears to predate WebObjects 5.3. I'll check if we need to
change the "Release 4.5.1 or Later" to "Releases 4.5.1 - 5.2.4".



Its not ony a question about getting excited, its a question about: are we doing illegal stuff (now or in the near future) ?


I guess the answer will be no, but i will ask nevertheless as if its not possible to get a statement from apple within the next months i think quite a lot of people have to make the decission if they continue to use WebObjects and then only on Mac OS X [server] boxes or drop WebObjects and try to use whatever (currently i would prefer to convert to a farmer with appletrees and tomatoes when i have to drop WO).

Is it allowed to deploy WebObjects 5.3 or higher based applications on other Operating Systems than Mac OS X [server] ? Currently we still have some WO 5.2 licenses which can be used on Linux and other things but some companies depend 100% from their WebObjects products and if Apple is not able to give these companies a statement, then they will have to make a decission which is quite easy. Mostly its because of the customers, not because of the developers to deploy on linux or something like this. In germany its becoming more and more a KO criteria: if you want to sell server based software (like a WO App) to the government you must deploy it on Linux or other OpenSource OS which are available for free. I guess germay is not an important market but things are changing in the US and elsewhere, too. Or those companies ignore license and install WO 5.3+ on Linux and whatever and risk to get undesired mails from Apple's lawyers. Well, this would be quite easy in UK because a limited is very cheap, but what a stupid idea: for every project for every customer you are using an english limited and then, if the lawyer come you say "ups, sorry, no money left, we're insolvent"

My 2ct: its too early to behave like microsoft where ASP and such stuff only runs on Windows, maybe Apple can try such things in 5 or 10 years but not with a market share of about 5% and whatever in the Enterprise IT market.

David

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