Re: WebOjects, great doubts and little official support?
Re: WebOjects, great doubts and little official support?
- Subject: Re: WebOjects, great doubts and little official support?
- From: Karl <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 10:18:25 -0400
Apple uses WebObjects for just about everything developed internally
including a lot of DirectToWeb quick applications.
1. I think that the Discussion Forums are a bought-in product, not WO.
2. Most importantly, they use WO for the iTunes Music Store and the
Apple Store. Pretty much 100% WO. The iTunes application talks to a
WO backend via XML.
3. WO is used extensively in large companies. Disney uses it for a
substantial number of internal systems. AT&T/Cingular Cellular. The
BBC's whole news website is powered by it.
4. Large consultancy practices really don't like products like WO.
They just 'work' and you don't need tons of developers. When your
business model is based upon selling hours of development and people,
why use a tool that lets you do a better job with 10% of the people?
5. WebSphere and WebLogic are application servers with a substantial
focus upon EJB and solving the problems that EJB creates. WO can run
happily inside both of them. WO's EOF is much more sophisticated
when it comes to database access than the facilities provided by
these application servers. None have facilities like Direct To Web/
Java Client/Web Services/EOF.
For the last point, that is Apple. I think that you should look at
the track records though. If you developed using either Microsoft or
Oracle Developer tools over the past 5-10 years, how many times would
you have been forced to re-write? Every 2-3 years with Microsoft,
every 5 with Oracle.
Chances are that a WO app from 10 years ago in Objective C is running
today (converted to Java along the way).
Karl
On 13-Sep-05, at 9:37 AM, L. Caballero wrote:
Hello,
...And I do not talk about to manual and the mail-list ;-)
I imagine that these questions or have been made other times, but
would request a effort, to update this information, on this partly
depends our decision to develop in WebObjects or other platforms.
Considering the short information that is on WebObjects and its
use in big companies, I it would like to know:
1. The forums of Discussion of Apple are made with WebObjects?.
2. Somebody knows in what Apple areas use WebObjects.
3. Why is so little used WebObjects, in the great companies?
Thanks
4. Why is not used more WEbObjets in great companies?
5. Somebody can compare WebObjects with WebSphere or Weblogic.
To date I have not been able to contact with any department of
Apple that can resolve doubts, specific of WebObjects, when
Microsoft and Oracle give very good attention to the client. It is
normal?
Thanks, by your commentaries (and excuse my English).
L. Caballero
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