Re: WebObjects Foundation
Re: WebObjects Foundation
- Subject: Re: WebObjects Foundation
- From: email@hidden
- Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 10:04:17 -0700
On Aug 15, 2006, at 9:17 AM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
To expand on this point... Building an association with a goal of
promoting a proprietary code base (with the owner not being a part
of it) is an exercise in futility. If your are a business owner
whose business depends on WebObjects technology, investing in such
foundation is a waste of money, as you still have no say on the
future direction of the product.
I don't completely agree here. Obviously we have no say in the
direction of the product; Apple is going to serve their internal
needs first and there probably won't be any cycles left over for
anything else. But I do think there is value to us in promoting WO
however we can. For our own personal business reasons, the more buzz
there is about WO the more likely clients are to be enthusiastic
about using it instead of needing to be convinced. And the larger
the community is, the more likely Apple is to pay some attention to
us. They were clearly blown away by how many people attended the WO
sessions and as I recall there were comments about wanting to see the
community grow from both the audience and the stage.
Invest in the existing open source WO community instead! If you
have something to offer as far as WO future direction, this is the
place to do it and make a difference. Wonder has 41 committers,
WOProject/WOLips has 11. How many actually commit code on a regular
basis? 3-4 people at the most. Not enough to start a foundation,
but if you come and participate, this may change one year from now.
The best advice I can give here is that it needs to be as easy as
possible for people to contribute. Lessons from the past once
again; in my old life documentation had to be in Docbook format and
basically ready to publish, so very few people wrote any unless they
were being paid to do so. Likewise they keep trying to require test
cases with every patch, so fewer and fewer of those are coming in.
All the ideals in the world are no good if the barrier to entry is so
high that the project can't sustain itself; IMHO it is better to
make it easy for new contributors and have someone ready to work with
them to improve the quality of their contribution than to send them
away to perfect themselves. They usually don't come back.
janine
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