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Re: WebObjects Foundation


  • Subject: Re: WebObjects Foundation
  • From: Simon Mclean <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 19:42:26 +0100


I think we need to have a very good, published, review of the various frameworks out there:
GVC, D2W, Noxymo, Wonder, LEWO, Apollo, others???

the frightening thing is i have been working with webobjects for 7 years and i've not even heard of LEWO or Apollo...

How about a plug-in/component center?

wocode is a good start, but tends to be code snippets rather than easily reusable components. i guess we already have a plugin-in/component centre called ERExtesnions !

The new wiki is a great start. But if there were hundreds of open source components, plugins, examples that would generate the buzz.

but why is the new wiki buried somewhere on wikibooks ? i showed a friend the wiki a while back and the glum _expression_ on their face said it all. you somehow feel like you're dealing with a second rate citizen when the technology doesn't even have a it's own home. even Apple's own WO site (err, i mean page) is about as inspiring as Rob Glaser. if everything WO (wonder, wiki, blogs, mailing list, forgery etc) were all under the hood of WOonrails.org (joke, but you know what i mean) then i think we'd make a huge leap forward in the visibility and acceptability of WO.

This is a good way to generate buzz, links from other sites, and most importantly sales!

with one site you would have somewhere to point your manager, their manager, potential client etc. when they ask that old question "what is webobjects ?".

I like WebObjects, am amazed by it, and am always learning something due to the incredible quality of this list. But I am damn tired of defending it.

i know the feeling. i have been toying with the idea of telling people i will build with tapestry / struts to avoid the "WTF ?" question, and then using WO to deliver in half the time.

- James Cicenia

PS: I have a dedicated first gen XServe running WebObjects that I could offer cycles on.

i could possibly also wangle a dedicated xserve from my company - would have to check, but i am pretty sure it's available. i am also sure those nice guys at Atlaissan would kindly give us an opensource licence for Confluence (for the wiki) and Jira (for bug tracking) which are both excellent tools. 

simon




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