Re: Re: whywebobjects.org - WWDC followup [and URLs]
Re: Re: whywebobjects.org - WWDC followup [and URLs]
- Subject: Re: Re: whywebobjects.org - WWDC followup [and URLs]
- From: "Joe Little" <email@hidden>
- Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 14:33:37 -0700
as to the various sites.. I think there needs to be an advocacy place
(read marketing) that may or may not be intertwined with the overall
primary page. I think the objectstyle confluence site is best for
pretty much everything else for the community, though it may not be
the prime/ideal jumping off point to point people two. A site the
collects these with say an intro to the key members might be ideal to
show the strength of the community and the cohesiveness (if that
gels).
At WWDC I joked that we could have woa.org or the like, and have each
dedicated WOA developer who wishes to have their little "Hi, my name
is Joe, and I'm a WebObjects Addict. I've been on the sauce for 10
years, dating back to my use of WO 3.5.1..."
Some of the original idea was to use Teams and other unmentionable NDA
stuff that apple is putting out on their seeds. And again, this could
all be done on the wikis out there/blogs/etc. Is objectstyle primed
for blog type services? In any case, we may still need to have that
smashing front end that leads to all corners of the WebObjects world,
whether coding/dev, documentation, marketing, bios, mailing list, or
to whatever Apple still puts up.
On 8/16/06, Mark Morris <email@hidden> wrote:
Yes, that one's good! ;-)
However, we may be mixing up two (or more!) conversations here.
whywebobjects is meant to be a WO advocacy site, with comparisons,
testimonials, links to sites and companies using WO, etc. I got the
domain names (whywebobjects.org, .net, and .info) last year, and sent
an email to the group for suggestions back then, but when I didn't
get any, I let it languish with just a placeholder page (which also
asked for suggestions ;-).
The topic arose again just before WWDC, and this time there was
lively discussion, which I'm sure will shame me into being a more
active caretaker. (Already I've just received some offers of help
and wiki hosting.)
whywebobjects.org will be separate from the site containing code,
techniques, downloads, etc. (Although I'm sure they will link to
each other.)
One name related question we can decide on is which TLD we want as
the primary name (the one the others redirect to). whywebobjects.org
is good, but I also like whywebobjects.info. (Or does anybody prefer
whywebobjects.net? Not my favorite, though.) Thoughts?
Regards,
Mark
On Aug 16, 2006, at 4:04 PM, Joe Little wrote:
> I still think WebObjectsAnonynmous is the best :) (woa.org)
>
>
> On 8/16/06, Pascal Robert <email@hidden> wrote:
>>
>> Le 06-08-16, à 15:23, Marc Oesch a écrit :
>>
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> >> We had talk about building a bigger site and integrating the
>> content
>> >> from WhyWebObjects to this site.
>> >
>> > Did you already decide on a URL ?
>> >
>> > If not, what about WebObjectsWorld.xyz or WoW! for short. Just
>> an idea.
>> > [the exclamation mark would distinguish it from the popular game].
>>
>> That's a good name :-) Or maybe "WebObjects' Not Rails" or
>> "WND" ? :-P
>>
>> >> I'm working on a prototype, I hope to get something to show before
>> >> September.
>> >
>> > A question since I wasn't present:
>> > Will tbis new site link to existing sites or try to collect
>> > "existing" info on the new site ?
>> > Sort of like http://www.rubyonrails.org/ as a simple entry
>> portal to
>> > the technology ?
>>
>> It will contain link to existing resources (the two wikis, Apple's WO
>> page, WOCode, etc.) but will also contain a list of people using WO,
>> success stories and what's/why WebObjects.
>>
>> In fact, I already have something, but since I'm trying to learn
>> CSS/XHTML at the same time (I'm still living in a HTML4 world), it's
>> ugly :
>>
>> http://www.os.ca/wofoundation/
>>
>> - What's WebObjects will contain info about WO (mature, used for big
>> sites, etc.)
>>
>> - How to start : links to documentation/tutorials
>>
>> - Resources : links to the wikis, Apple's site, etc.
>>
>> - People using WO : list of WO dudes, including good details
>> (number of
>> years using WO, number of apps, other technologies used with WO, how
>> many devs, etc.)
>>
>> - Success stories (not in the menu for now) : success stories like
>> the
>> award for SiteMaker, forward migrations, etc.
>>
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