Re: WebObjects Foundation
Re: WebObjects Foundation
- Subject: Re: WebObjects Foundation
- From: Johan Henselmans <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 13:52:25 +0200
I am a bit surprised about all this discussion of using non-
WebObjects solutions for a WebObjects site. As far as I know there is
-a WebObjects wiki (http://wodev.spearway.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/WODev.)
-a Webobjects CMS (http://sourceforge.net/projects/gvcsitemaker/)
-a Webobjects BugTracker (See Example Applications in Wonder in
http://sourceforge.net/projects/wonder)
three opensource attempts at replicating WebObjects functionality and
API's:
-GSWEB (http://www.gnustepweb.org/)
-SOPE/JOPE (http://sope.opengroupware.org/)
-WOTONOMY (http://sourceforge.net/projects/wotonomy)
a site that collects WO code snippets (http://www.wocode.com)
some site that propagate using WebObjects
with movies of how to use webobjects:
http://rentzsch.com/webobjects/introTo5
http://woworx.visionworxpro.com/
and books
(See some of the sites for links)
So it seems that all the elements that are needed for making a nice
WebObjects presence, make it as open source as possible and organize
a proper foundation are already in place. It is all a bit scattered,
and I think that it would be better to focus on getting these things
nicely organized, and working properly and make sure that they are
kept up to date.
What I miss:
-proper examples (no more 'the rest of the implementation is simple
and is left as an exercise to the reader').
-a real nice and complete implementation of all the possible ways one
can use web objects: HTML, WebServices, AJAX, JavaClient,
DirectToWeb, DirectToJava, with forms, mailings, print reports etc,
preferably for one problem-space.
The thinkmovies example of Apple seems a bit too far off from the
common work-environment for that purpose. I think of something the
northwind database that came as an example with MS-Access (is it
still?), or the Filemaker templates, that are mostly sufficient for
most of the information needs for small organisations, and can be
used right away. Of course, it would be expandable in an easy way
with examples of how to expand it (localizations, custom components
etc). Preferably the example would link up to most of the popular
databases (mysql, postgresql, openbase, frontbase, filemaker, oracle,
ms-sqlserver, db2, etc).
This example (or examples) should be the reason that people start
using WebObjects. A re-implementation of some opensource solution
developed in PHP, J2EE or .NET to prove the efficiency of WebObjects
compared to these development tools would also be nice (the open
source J2EE ERP solution www.compiere.org comes to mind). For
developers/ICT people some kind of asset-bug-project-time-support-
tracking-software selling system would be nice, and would spread the
reputation of WebObjects among the group that would be capable of
steering investment-decisions in the WebObjects direction.
Johan Henselmans
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