Re: A back door to get our Apps back?
Re: A back door to get our Apps back?
- Subject: Re: A back door to get our Apps back?
- From: James Cicenia <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 07:14:05 -0500
Jerry -
You are probably correct.
I am an Eclipse user and love it for Java development. Haven't moved
up to the latest version. I am waiting for a rev on the new
Powerbooks as I rarely buy a rev1 Apple product. I figured that would
be a good time to make my transition.
However, maybe, we should put together our own little competition?
Maybe mirror Apples and try to ride the publicity train?
I realize more and more that this is the end of WOBuilder. Yes I am
one who loves dragging and dropping, bindings, command-1 for my
bindings list, etc., HOWEVER, with all the talk and chatter on the
lists, I truly believe we must productize the communities offerings.
And as such maybe we should lobby Apple for a one time grant of
money, etc, where all the contributors can be financially awarded,
and even given some Apple help.
I wrote on the other list and probably insulted people (believe you
me, I have complete respect for anyone who has contributed anything
to WO and eclipse. But, I think we need to look to develop a
completely integrated WebObjects development environment and the more
visual the better. It should be packaged and have its own cool name.
Ruby on Rails just sounds better than WOLips and WOBuilder... Now
Project Wonder sounds great to me.. so I am thinking.. a complete
bundling of Wonder and Eclipse and ??? to form some really nice and
integrated development and testing environment. Maybe even have one
very large download that has and installs eclipse, wonder,
rulemodeler, EOEntityModeler, WonderBuilder, etc.
hmmm, WonderBuilder... sounds not so bad to me.
James Cicenia
On Aug 24, 2006, at 6:59 AM, Jerry W. Walker wrote:
Hi, James,
My reading of the page you referenced and the page at http://
mydreamapp.com/ says that we submit ideas to:
* a set of judges
* the "Killer App Dream Team"
* the (already 2000) voters
who will collectively decide which idea gets implemented, not by
us, but by the "Killer App Dream Team" developers.
Given that (from my inferences over the last two weeks, and in lieu
of any official communication on this important topic from Apple to
the plebeians who couldn't attend WWDC) Apple just dropped support
of a (almost) working set of WebObjects tools, what would cause
this constituency to agree that a working set of WO development
tools would constitute their idea of a "Killer App"?
Just asking.
On the other hand, it doesn't hurt to try, and if we submit ideas
that reflect what the original tools actually did, perhaps the
submission will help spread the word about what an astounding set
of technology WebObjects already represents. I wouldn't get my
hopes up, however, that the idea would be accepted. I think Apple
wants the community (us) to come up with a set of Open Source tools
that run everywhere, not just on Cocoa.
Regards,
Jerry
On Aug 24, 2006, at 7:13 AM, James Cicenia wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/macworld/20060821/tc_macworld/
mydreamapp20060821_0
Why don't we submit a killer WebObjects development environment
application suite?
- James Cicenia
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