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Re: WO in Java or Objective-C


  • Subject: Re: WO in Java or Objective-C
  • From: Ricardo Strausz <email@hidden>
  • Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 12:43:15 -0500

Hola Chuck, Ashley y Dana!

On Aug 28, 2006, at 12:06 AM, email@hidden wrote:

Message: 12

Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 21:10:51 -0700

From: Chuck Hill <email@hidden>

Subject: Re: WO in Java or Objective-C (Was Re: Is WebObjects 4.5

going open source?)



On Aug 27, 2006, at 9:04 PM, Ashley Aitken wrote:



WO in Java or Objective-C?  What would be most sensible going forward?


Given that there is a lot of enterprise Java code out there that WO  

in Java can and does take advantage of (e.g. as it now uses JDBC to  

replace the need for custom adaptors).  Given that WO in Objective- 

C would require adaptors to be written for all the required  

databases (this was a sticking point somewhat for WO when it was in  

Objective-C)


ODBC can replace the generic JDBC.


Of course, I know that Objective-C is a much more powerful language  

(with categories and the like) but Java does have some things going  

for it as well (e.g. portability).  Also if WO went back to  

Objective-C it could once again use Apple's development tools,  

whereas it would not be possible to use all the great Java  

functionality in Eclipse.


I do not feel any problem with the tools... I was used to emacs-type programming.


Personally, I feel that given all the improvements (and yes there  

were some steps backwards) that Apple has made to WO (especially  

EOF) since WO4.5 and Java's enterprise connections (and recent  

language improvements) and ability to deploy in Servlet containers  

etc) that it would be best to stay with WO in Java (e.g. if  

implementing a new open source WO).


I would only like to see something like EOF in Objective-C... the rest can/most stay in Java.


I quite like Objective-C as a language.  I much prefer it to Java.   

That said, moving WO back to Obj-C is nothing something I would be in  

favour of.  There are just too many 3rd party libraries in Java.


I agree... in both: Objective-C is preferable language, and WO, as a unit, most stay in Java in order to be truly platform independent and to include all those libraries out there... but, since there will be no more bridge, some of us will need some kind of EOAccess layer into OSX... an ODBC adaptor for Core Data would be enough for me...

BTW What we will happen with Java Client?
Is it possible to code a JC app with WOLisp?
How do you design interfaces in pure Java?

I will miss also the Interface Builder test-mode... or not?

Dino


  Chuck



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