Re: Seeking Advice for Getting Started
Re: Seeking Advice for Getting Started
- Subject: Re: Seeking Advice for Getting Started
- From: jerry porter <email@hidden>
- Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 20:56:23 -0800 (PST)
Hello,
A couple of 3rd party books I would recommend:
Practical WebObjects by Charles Hill and Sacha Mallais (APRESS)
WebObjects web application construction kit by George Ruzek (SAMS)
WebObjects Developers Guide by Ravi Mendis (SAMS)
To start come up with a simple idea like an address book and see where to go from there.
Or take a simple "static" site and convert it to a "dynamic site" just to understand page
navigation at first.
Then think of a way to build dynamic content drawn from a database.
For example recently I wanted to create a dynamically css driven site similar to csszengarden.com
I needed to build some components to help me with css. I stayed in that domain and tried to not to
get side tracked.
I also recently took a static web site that my boss created and turned into a WO application.
I created my first real db driven app in wo several years ago was a kind of content manager/wiki.
Jerry
--- John Shepherd <email@hidden> wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I have just recently become aware for the first time of the existence
> of WebObjects, and I am intrigued. However, I am at the same time very
> overwhelmed by the introductory documentation I have been reading so
> far. I'm hoping to get some advice as to whether it's truly a good idea
> for me to get involved with WebObjects at all, and if so, what is the
> right path for my interests.
> First, my professional background is primarily as a "Business Analyst"
> / "Systems Architect" at a large corporation that uses a wide range of
> computing technologies from mainframe COBOL applications to unix java
> web applications. No Macs, though. :( I have a strong data modeling
> background and an intermediate object modeling background. Many many
> models I have created over the years have been either scrapped or only
> used for communicating requirements in the early stage of a project, but
> a good number have evolved into live applications. I'm usually
> intimately involved with the design phase in these cases, but do not
> perform coding myself. I often participate in code reviews, though, as
> well as various levels of test validation. I'm explaining all this not
> because I plan to use WebObjects professionally, but because I want to
> give an idea of the limited foundation that I have.
> The thing that has "grabbed me" in the little bit that I've read so far
> about WebObjects is the use of object oriented modeling. I'm hoping to
> find a path to creating a simple object model and transform it into a
> running application. The 'hello world' version of such an approach
> would be great for a start, I think.
> Following that, I have a "hobby project" in mind that - until just
> recently learning about WebObjects - I was previously looking into
> taking on slowly with PHP/MySQL. In brief, the project entails managing
> lists of songs performed by a musical group over several years. I've
> created a good ERD already, but nothing further. These lists exist
> currently in static html pages that a friend of mine has created and
> maintained. What I'm ultimately interested in doing is storing the
> relevant information in a database and providing web-based query
> capability to interested persons for questions like, "how often has the
> band played at X venue?" or "When was the first/last time song XYZ was
> performed?". There is no urgency to getting this project underway, and
> I can be in complete control of the level of complexity that is undertaken.
> So, to finally get to my request for advice:
>
> 1) What would be my best sequence for reading the WO docs? I've already
> read "Getting Started," and have made starts into "Web Applications
> Overview," "WO Web Applications Programming Guide," "WO EOModelers User
> Guide," and "WO Enterprise Objects Programmers Guide". As I said at the
> beginning of this message, I'm getting overwhelmed. Each of these
> documents suggests several others that should be read early on....
>
> 2) Does WO seem appropriate for my "hobby project," or would I be
> biting off more than a professional programmer could comfortably chew?
>
> Thanks in advance for any recommendations.
>
> Sincerely,
> John
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Jerry Porter
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Universal Measurement Solutions, Ltd.
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