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Re: Managing EOF caching
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Re: Managing EOF caching


  • Subject: Re: Managing EOF caching
  • From: Michael DeMan <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 01:35:57 -0800

The cheezy option is always hardware. Quick fix, and usually pretty cheap. Definitely not elegant.

If this is a production application, I would check swap utilization on the server, and if its low, and especially if there are some bucks for a few extra GB of RAM, do as follows:

1. Get the production system working, deferring the elegant work with a crappy fix. i.e., make sure you have lots of RAM and toss parameters into your shell or Monitor startups like:
-Xms512m -XX:NewSize=4m -Xms256m


right along with your -DWOAutoOpenInBrowser=false statements, etc.

Your apps will get huge, but keep in mind that on a decent UNIX system with WebObjects (and nearly any server-side java app) you can expect a good 100MB+ of RAM to be unused, shared, and swapped out forever. When you look at RAM utilization, only look at whats resident.

2. In regards to more elegant solutions, look at some of the fetches and/or 1:M relationship accesses you do in the application. You can take some of those subroutines and when they're done, have them discard only those objects from your primary editing context and snapshot that they brought in for their local use and that you expect will not be needed in the near future.

3. Even if they are needed in the near future, have your database do the work and optimize your fetches to include only the columns of data you need and where possible use stored procedures. Obviously on this one 'near future' means minutes not milliseconds.

4. If you need the stuff in RAM, buy more RAM!

5. If you're running multiple instances, implement a global cross- instance EODatabaseObjectStoreCoordinator (or whatever the class is called, I forget right now), that will cache all your data in one spot across all your instances on the same host. You need to do a little bit of inter-process notification, but its a well understood methodology and you can find snippets at www.wosource.com.

My 2-cents anyway.

- mike

On Jan 18, 2006, at 10:20 AM, Ken Anderson wrote:

Dave,

It depends.  If it's a to-one relationship, and either:

a) The object is already in your current editing context from your fetch, or
b) The object is in a different editing context, but the database snapshot is recent enough for your editing context to accept it


then yes, there will be no database activity. This is because the object can be found or created purely based on the global ID, which can be constructed because a to-one relationship requires you to know the entire primary key.

However, if the snapshot is old, your editing context might refuse the snapshot and request a fresh one (it depends on that context's timestamp or the default timestamp lag).

Lastly, to-many faults will always require a trip to the database, since the set information is not known. You can always improve this by setting the to-many relationship to batch fault. Don't forget though, if only one instance of a to-many fault exists at a particular time in the context, no amount of batch faulting will help you. Another way to improve this is to have a method in your class that determines the to-many grouping via an in-memory qualification (if you already have a group of objects you know are the superset). This of course gets dicey, because you're doing EOF's job...but some circumstances might warrant it.

To answer your original question, fetches from fetch specs or faulting go through the same plumbing.

Ken

On Jan 18, 2006, at 12:56 PM, Dave Rathnow wrote:

Is there a difference in the way EOF caches an object if it is fetched using an EOFetchSpecification or if it is retrieved by traversing a relationship? If I do a bulk fetch using a fetchSpec and then access these object via a relationship from a related object, will EOF use the cached object or fetch it from the database?

Thanks,
Dave.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Anderson [mailto:email@hidden]
Sent: January 18, 2006 08:29 AM
To: Dave Rathnow
Cc: 'email@hidden'
Subject: Re: Managing EOF caching

Dave,

What you're doing is OK, and pretty typical (at least for me). I try to limit the destruction of snapshots to the destruction of an editing context, so I don't have objects lying around that are not garbage collected, but their snapshots have been removed from the database context.

In one situation, I would have a singleton manage the 'ref data' context (which stored often used reference data). When a 'transaction' editing context was destroyed, it would invalidated all the EOs in THAT editing context that did not have a companion in the ref editing context (managed by the singleton). In that manner, we would hold on to ref data indefinitely, but only hold on to transactional data for the life of the context.

Ken

On Jan 17, 2006, at 12:07 PM, Dave Rathnow wrote:


We have an application that processes well data that is reported at regular and irregular
reporting periods. The bulk of the data arrives in the morning within a two hour window. The
application is headless, that is, it has no UI.


When we first wrote the program we were having problems with running out of memory and
the simplest solution we found was to periodically dispose of the editing context and then
nuke all snapshots from the EODatabase object. This solved the memory problems but of
course we lost the advantage of any EOF caching. Unfortunately, we are now at a point where
we are falling too far behind during busy periods so we have to revisit the problem and find
a better solution.


This application is one part of a bigger system and it's primary job is to process incoming data
according to a set of business rule. The processing involves fectching object from the DB and
creating other objects that are then stored in the DB and consumed by other applications in the
system. Most of the fetched objects should stay in memory since they will likely be used in the
future to process data from the same location. Other objects could probably be nuked after a
period of time. The newly created objects are not required and could be released as soon as they
are saved to the DB.


I've been playing around with different optimization strategies including batch fetching but the one
that seems to work the best is to save all inserted objects in my EC before I call saveChanges and
then nuke the snapshots from the EODatabase after the saveChanges has finished. My overall memory
requirements have increased but they seem to level out at an acceptable level.


So here are my question:

1. Does anyone have some ideas how to handle this type of caching requirements? Is there
another/better approach or different solution?


2. Assuming what I'm doing is an acceptable approach, can I control how long objects are cached
by EOF and what objects are cached?


3. Does nuking snapshots in the way I'm doing it have an bad side effects.

Thanks,
Dave.

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