Re: Decisions, decisions...
Re: Decisions, decisions...
- Subject: Re: Decisions, decisions...
- From: Ken Anderson <email@hidden>
- Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 16:30:12 -0500
How many of those 2000 users will be concurrent? If the answer is
more than around 50, I think performance will answer your question.
WO will beat the pants off PHP with a lot of users. My guess is your
hardware costs will get quite high with a PHP based solution, where a
maxed out xServe will probably handle hundreds of users before
getting bogged down.
In terms of cost, WO is part of the standard development package now
- no extra cost. If you mean hardware cost, wouldn't you have to buy
something to run the PHP site on?
Ken
On Jan 28, 2006, at 3:05 PM, Logiciels Malus Softwares wrote:
Hi!
I'm new to this list, and I have been looking for a "good excuse"
to do WO development for a while... Now I have this project that
looks like a good candidate, but I have been asked to compare WO
with PHP... I know, I know, not the same beast, and though both are
fruits, one is an apple and the other one is an orange. However, I
do have to compare... And therein lies my problem: I can not, for
the love of me, come to a decision? (Obviously I am biased since I
ask here, though... : ) )
What we are looking at here is a website with forums, file
exchange, mass-mailing functionality, and a very, very basic text-
editor. That's for the first couple of phases. Then.. .Who knows.
But it's basically an enhanced online community. We are probably
going to have about 2000 users.
Now, I know PHP can probably do all that, and the community is
_huge_ with a lot of libraries and all that. I'm a little concerned
about some of PHP's shortcomings (those I have found discussed on
the web) like lower security, not being too friendly with teams of
developers; though I will only be the only programmer for now, I
can see this becoming a 2-3 programmers project in the future. And
I really like to be able to extract the logic from the web pages.
(I know I can do that with Smarty in PHP) On a totally personnal
note, I'm more confident with Obj-C or Java than C/C++ at this
point (my C++ is really rusty) and I understand if I ever need to
develop "plug-ins" or "extras" in PHP, it's C/C++...
On the other hand, WO feels like it's just a bit too big for this
project; I know the learning curve will be steeper, but I am
counting on long term gains in maintenance... The other thing
against WO is that, right now, it would mean buying it - my
thoughts were to buy a Mac Mini, install Mac OS X server on there,
and host it at macminicolo or something... But, it would mean $$$
in the short term. The other concern was that it would be easier to
find PHP coders if/when we need help, than WO coders... Though
since WO is Java, I guess it's not such a good argument after all...
Sooooo, I'm all mixed up! I _want_ the answer to be WO ; ) but I
just can't in good faith find a valid, solid argument (or even
better: "set of arguments") to tip the scale in WO's favor... Since
for this kind of project, it feels like PHP might be very capable,
cheaper and allow us to grow the team over time...
Anybody has any thoughts on this?
Thanks!
Jean
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