Re: Thoughts on choosing a source code control system?
Re: Thoughts on choosing a source code control system?
- Subject: Re: Thoughts on choosing a source code control system?
- From: Jean-François Veillette <email@hidden>
- Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 17:22:01 -0500
At work, we still on cvs, but are looking for alternatives.
For a personal project (I'm alone on this one, so it's not really like
real-world experience), I'm currently using bzr (bazaar-ng : Bazaar
Next-Generation), which is a decentralized vcs. So far so god. It's
written in Python and offer a simple interface.
bzr is still at 0.7 (stable, 0.8 in the work), I'm on their dev mailing
list, there is a lot of activity, people are working hard on this.
From what I understand (reading between the lines), mercury is the
closer to what can be compared with bzr.
I think bzr is ready for production (bzr is self-hosting), but the vc
model is different than cvs, if this model better fit your needs, than
I think it should be considered. Bzr development is going well. They
expect a 0.8 release this month, which will include lots of changes.
Bzr command are verry similar to cvs. No gui yet but a web interface
available as a plugin.
Note about my vcs history :
I've never used Perforce.
I'm currently using cvs at work.
I'm currently using bzr at home.
I've used VisualSourceSafe long ago (a Win-NT thing).
I've used DevMan (an even older thing, available only on NeXT/OpenStep).
I've used rcs (long ago).
- jfv
Le 06-03-11, à 16:24, email@hidden a écrit :
Hi all,
I hope this doesn't kick off a flame war; I know this can be one of
those semi-religious topics. But I'm hoping we can have a civil
discussion about it.
I've used CVS forever, and want to move into something more modern. I
heard from several people I really trust that Perforce is da bomb, and
in my tests it worked just fine. I had occasion to use their support,
and was impressed by how good it was. However, the $800 per seat cost
is pretty steep for a small company, and it seemed clear from reading
both the Xcode and WO lists that there are a lot of people using
Subversion. So I decided to look into that.
After reading through the Manning book on Subversion, I was starting
to have doubts. There were a distressing number of places where the
author seemed to be giving workarounds to limitations in Subversion,
without quite admitting that was what he was doing. I just didn't
feel like I was reading about a polished product, one that would be so
much better than CVS that it would be worth the effort to switch.
However the siren call of "free" was still beckoning me, so I started
monitoring the Subversion user's list.
I don't read all the posts there but from the ones I do read it seems
like a bit of a pattern is emerging. The users there are extremely
protective of their software of choice, and they don't take kindly to
people suggesting improvements. There was recently a knockdown
dragout over whether the "cvs tag" functionality should be added to
Subversion or not. Additionally, it appears that the Subversion
developers are not terribly interested in what the user community
cares about; a good number of the replies on the tags thread could be
boiled down to "Subversion rulez, we don't need no stinkin' tags, and
why are you bothering to argue about this since the developers don't
take requests". It was not a terribly impressive or inspiring
exchange. I've been part of communities like this before and it seems
to me that when the users have a bad attitude they usually caught it
from the developers, and when the developers have a bad attitude the
software ends up suffering.
OTOH, there have been some big splashy conversions to Subversion
lately; Sourceforge is now offering it, among others. So it's not
like the Subversion project is going to fade into petulant obscurity
any time soon, even if they deserved to.
So... any thoughts on why I should (or should not) go with Subversion
or Perforce or something else entirely are all welcome. Also, for
those using Subversion, are you using it through Xcode or with some
other front end? It seems that some of it's limitations can be solved
by using the right client software, but there are so many to choose
from that it's hard to tell which one is the best.
Thanks!
janine
http://www.freeiPods.com/?r=21419063
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