• Open Menu Close Menu
  • Apple
  • Shopping Bag
  • Apple
  • Mac
  • iPad
  • iPhone
  • Watch
  • TV
  • Music
  • Support
  • Search apple.com
  • Shopping Bag

Lists

Open Menu Close Menu
  • Terms and Conditions
  • Lists hosted on this site
  • Email the Postmaster
  • Tips for posting to public mailing lists
Re: Thoughts on choosing a source code control system?
[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index]

Re: Thoughts on choosing a source code control system?


  • Subject: Re: Thoughts on choosing a source code control system?
  • From: Mike Schrag <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 07:51:24 -0500

http://better-scm.berlios.de/ has a lot of interesting and useful information ...

ms

On Mar 11, 2006, at 4:24 PM, email@hidden wrote:

Hi all,

I hope this doesn't kick off a flame war; I know this can be one of those semi-religious topics. But I'm hoping we can have a civil discussion about it.

I've used CVS forever, and want to move into something more modern. I heard from several people I really trust that Perforce is da bomb, and in my tests it worked just fine. I had occasion to use their support, and was impressed by how good it was. However, the $800 per seat cost is pretty steep for a small company, and it seemed clear from reading both the Xcode and WO lists that there are a lot of people using Subversion. So I decided to look into that.

After reading through the Manning book on Subversion, I was starting to have doubts. There were a distressing number of places where the author seemed to be giving workarounds to limitations in Subversion, without quite admitting that was what he was doing. I just didn't feel like I was reading about a polished product, one that would be so much better than CVS that it would be worth the effort to switch. However the siren call of "free" was still beckoning me, so I started monitoring the Subversion user's list.

I don't read all the posts there but from the ones I do read it seems like a bit of a pattern is emerging. The users there are extremely protective of their software of choice, and they don't take kindly to people suggesting improvements. There was recently a knockdown dragout over whether the "cvs tag" functionality should be added to Subversion or not. Additionally, it appears that the Subversion developers are not terribly interested in what the user community cares about; a good number of the replies on the tags thread could be boiled down to "Subversion rulez, we don't need no stinkin' tags, and why are you bothering to argue about this since the developers don't take requests". It was not a terribly impressive or inspiring exchange. I've been part of communities like this before and it seems to me that when the users have a bad attitude they usually caught it from the developers, and when the developers have a bad attitude the software ends up suffering.

OTOH, there have been some big splashy conversions to Subversion lately; Sourceforge is now offering it, among others. So it's not like the Subversion project is going to fade into petulant obscurity any time soon, even if they deserved to.

So... any thoughts on why I should (or should not) go with Subversion or Perforce or something else entirely are all welcome. Also, for those using Subversion, are you using it through Xcode or with some other front end? It seems that some of it's limitations can be solved by using the right client software, but there are so many to choose from that it's hard to tell which one is the best.

Thanks!

janine

_______________________________________________
Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored.
Webobjects-dev mailing list (email@hidden)
Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription:
40mdimension.com


This email sent to email@hidden

_______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (email@hidden) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: This email sent to email@hidden
References: 
 >Thoughts on choosing a source code control system? (From: email@hidden)

  • Prev by Date: Re: Expanding Import
  • Next by Date: And which SVN front end do you like?
  • Previous by thread: Re: Thoughts on choosing a source code control system?
  • Next by thread: Re: Thoughts on choosing a source code control system?
  • Index(es):
    • Date
    • Thread