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Re: JavaScript by any other name is "AJAX"?
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Re: JavaScript by any other name is "AJAX"?


  • Subject: Re: JavaScript by any other name is "AJAX"?
  • From: Paul Lynch <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 20:13:05 +0100


On 29 Mar 2006, at 17:31, Jerry W. Walker wrote:

On Mar 29, 2006, at 10:56 AM, Paul Lynch wrote:

On 29 Mar 2006, at 15:59, Jerry W. Walker wrote:

I personally believe that AJAX is a useful term for a collection of existing technologies (JavaScript and XML asynchronously interacting with a web server) to achieve with HTTP a user experience that mimics the client-server experience of the 80's. I haven't often seen it used for simple JavaScript tricks.

80s? That's an interesting choice - if the early 80s, then colour in their 80x24 terminals was an adventurous design decision. I'd view AJAX as a selection of technologies intended to permit more of a GUI design than the transaction based design inherent in http. But then that's a gradual fade in from very plain html designs, so I guess I'd rather avoid the term at all.

Actually, I was thinking more of the late 80's, but the reason I mentioned that decade was because of a comment made to me by a very young programmer when I first started doing WebObjects in the 90's. I mentioned that I felt that client-server was so much richer than the web based programming we were doing together, which seemed like a throwback to the old IBM 3290 terminals. He turned toward me with a dismissive glance and said, "Client-server? That's so 1980's".


Heh, I was still feeling like the 1980's was pretty modern. But he was in grade school then, so, of course one didn't want to reference technologies that were THAT old! I made a mental note to avoid any discussion of punched cards, punched paper tape and acoustic coupled modems. :-)

Starting with WebObjects in '96 was the first time that the transactional nature of http was brought home to me, despite a few years of perl and Ted Shelton's (ITS) OO web product, whatever it was called; quite a few techniques learnt programming CICS almost 20 years before came in handy. Client-server (and n-tier) has been and gone so many times in the 90s alone; I wonder if people will ever conclude that it's a matter of resource allocation rather than fundamental application design. Kids today, huh?


Paul

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