Re: Eclipse / wolips / X-Code –– Baffled user of D2WS
Re: Eclipse / wolips / X-Code –– Baffled user of D2WS
- Subject: Re: Eclipse / wolips / X-Code –– Baffled user of D2WS
- From: Chuck Hill <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:21:58 -0700
I am not too sure on that. Project Wonder is very strong on the D2*
technologies. They have have something.
Chuck
On Oct 16, 2006, at 1:59 PM, Gordon Maynard wrote:
Hi,
May I ask a slightly different question, what is the recommended
way forward for users of the D2WS part of WO? I have been happily
using EOM/XCode/WS Assistant to develop SOAP servers and am unclear
how to do this in the New World, or whether I should explore other
methods entirely. I do not anticipate using WO for Web apps (I'm
happy with PHP, sad but true) or client apps (I'm happy with
Applescript Studio).
Any pointers would be welcome, I see Apple are still promoting WO
primarily as a means of developing Web Services:
http://www.apple.com/webobjects/
regards,
Gordon.
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On 16 Oct 2006, at 21:49, Chuck Hill wrote:
Hi Andrew,
On Oct 16, 2006, at 1:38 PM, email@hidden wrote:
I'm reading between the lines on this mailing list over and over
amongst the whispers and murmours and am still not quite sure
what is going to happen with the WO toolset. I can appreciate
that EOM and WOB are going to get the axe, although there is no
clear indication of *when* they are going to go. Is it going to
happen at 5.3.?/5.4/5.5/...?
I have no idea when this will happen.
Yesterday Chuck said in a post...
Apple is deprecating their Xcode and tool support in favor of
WOLips.
My interpretation, not their words.
...but in one of Apple's open emails to this list they say...
...Making WO work well with ANT and the most popular IDEs,
including Xcode and Eclipse
Which mentions X-Code and Eclipse. Is it the case that they will
be advocating wolips's ANT tasks as the only viable build process
for WO?
Yes, that is my interpretation of that statement. They may
provide their own tasks, but that would seem to be a waste of
effort for them.
What about SSD or do we have to arrange that ourselves open-
source style?
I don't use it, but I was under the impression that WOProject (the
Ant part of WOLips) did this already.
Is it the intention of Apple that eclipse will be the only viable
platform for WO development?
I was not aware that Xcode ever was a viable platform for WO
development. Grin.
I expect that Xcode will always be able to build WO apps. But
once the other tools go away, you would need to use Eclipse and
WOLips to edit models, components, etc. Well, that or emacs.
and want to encourage variety within the community...We will
work to assist the community...been working with several open
source projects. This will become public soon.
It's a really big ask to expect somebody to stop work for a week
in order to fly all the way from New Zealand to conference in the
USA every single year just on the off chance there is any
meaningful/new WO information imparted. I feel that claiming to
be "assisting the community" and then keeping the bulk of the
community (including some like me who do contribute articles and
framework) in the dark on timing and logistics of these obviously
quite massive changes is an extraordinary contradiction.
You are not the only one saying that. However, this mentality
runs very deep at Apple.
Chuck
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