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Re: Community Wish List


  • Subject: Re: Community Wish List
  • From: "Jerry W. Walker" <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 19:02:08 -0400

On Sep 6, 2006, at 6:41 PM, Thomas wrote:

I'd be happy to contribute the fee previously discussed, and contribute my time for design discussions and testing of the WOBuilder replacement.

But we do NOT need a WYSIWYG WOBuilder replacement.

We need an editor that, like WOBuilder, displays the organisation of the component, not the way it will be rendered in a browser. It's fine by me if someone wants to go down the path of developing a separate tool that previews what a component looks like in a browser, CSS and all, but in my opinion that is a waste of time because the rendered result would be so heavily dependent on the data and functionality of the WO application. The only real way to preview a component is to run the WO app and look at it in a browser.

Agreed.

I never really understood the hype surrounding WOBuilder's Preview view and have only used it a few times with disappointing results.

The WOBuilder replacement should, however, have a Source and Layout view and allow the same (or better) ease of switching back and forth between the two views with selections of components from either view carrying into the other view. In a complicated HTML hierarchy, I've found this capability among the most helpful of services that WOBuilder offers.

I also think WOBuilder's object browser is valuable. The ability to see the keys of the WOComponent Java class file (and the Session and Application class files) and be able to visually link them to the subcomponent and element bindings is great both as a teaching tool and as a page composition tool.

Although a WO development plugin for a commercial Web editor would be nice, I too don't want to buy and learn DreamWeaver. I use Golive.

However, we could focus on a much lower target in addition to the WOBuilder replacement: plugins for both DreamWeaver and Golive (or .wo -> HTML -> .wo conversion tools) that allow web designers to edit a WO component without destroying the WO tags. I believe the WO developer tasks and the WYSIWYG appearance tasks are completely separate activities, often done by different people, and with entirely different requirements.

+1

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__ Jerry W. Walker,
WebObjects Developer/Instructor for High Performance Industrial Strength Internet Enabled Systems


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