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Re: setting default order of entity fetches
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Re: setting default order of entity fetches


  • Subject: Re: setting default order of entity fetches
  • From: Louis Demers <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 23:39:24 -0400

Hi,

this is the first time I saw the page you referenced. Is there some error on the page

http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WO/ Programming__WebObjects-Project+WONDER-Frameworks-ERExtensions

which cases none of the links to work ?



On 22-Aug-07, at 22:52 , Steven Mark McCraw wrote:

For Wonder users, you can do all kinds of neat things with ERXArrayUtilities and key-value coding:

http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WO/ Programming__WebObjects-WOnder-ERXArrayUtilities

This allows you to do things like quickly and easily sort in your bindings:

list = email@hiddename,firstName

There are tons of neat things you can do besides sorting (and you can extend it to do still other things), but this thread made me think of the sorting functionality (although I'm not clear if it useful for solving the problem that started the thread).

Mark

On Aug 22, 2007, at 10:40 PM, Ken Anderson wrote:

To me, sorting is something that should really occur at the UI or 'use' level. Also, if you consider the amount of CPU needed to sort the EOs returned to you, it's probably comparable to what the DB has to do anyway, so why not distribute it?

On Aug 22, 2007, at 9:22 PM, Lachlan Deck wrote:

On 23/08/2007, at 10:46 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:

On Aug 22, 2007, at 5:09 PM, Lachlan Deck wrote:

Hi there,

EOEntity has a restrictingQualifier that's applied to every fetch for the relevant entity.

Is there any similar mechanism for installing a default ordering for fetched objects of each entity (e.g., when following a toMany relationship)? Or any delegate methods somewhere?

No. And don't override the EOF methods to do this or you risk messing with EOF. And we all know how that ends up. :-) The reason for the lack of sorting, as I understand it, is that EOF would then need to keep the list sorted each time something was added to it.

It's already keeping them sorted (think about it...). Just not how I'd like.


Furthermore, it's impossible to fetch records from a database without them sorted in some kind of order. I'm simply wanting to override the arbitrary sort order that the database wants to return to suit this particular application.

And what if you wanted alternate sorts?

Simply apply the default sorting in the absence of a specific sort orderings array. Not hard conceptually.


The standard approach is to have a cover method that sorts the contents of the relationship and returns it.

Which kinda makes *every* toMany relationship generated from each EOEntity useless don't you think?


with regards,
--

Lachlan Deck

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