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Re: A REAL newbie


  • Subject: Re: A REAL newbie
  • From: David Holt <email@hidden>
  • Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 10:11:28 -0800

Hi Doug,

You're going to have to persevere a little harder than that to become a WO developer!

For learning, you are going to be fine with WO 5.4. By the time you are thinking about your first/next project, the toolset and frameworks should be stable again. In fact, if you just get started with the tools, that should take you some time to get used to.

I really like Miguel Arroz's introductory document put up over the weekend. It is not complete, but it offers tremendous hard-won advice:

http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WO/Best+Practices- Starting+From+Scratch

There is also a nice blog put together by Kieran Kelleher as he was learning WO. You'll see many of the issues you'll be running into covered at his site: http://homepage.mac.com/kelleherk/iblog/ C1216817469/index.html (start at the bottom of the page for the earliest blog entries).

Janine's tutorial mentioned in previous messages will get you used to using the tools and some of the concepts of WO development. It is a much better tutorial than the Apple one, which certainly led me in some strange directions starting out. http://wotutorial.furfly.com/ downloads.html

You may have some difficulties getting the Apple provided sample code running on Leopard. Pascal Robert has put up a screencast showing what needs to be done to get the samples running.

A database that you may not have heard of is used quite widely in the WO community. It is now provided with a free license: http:// www.frontbase.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/FrontBase

Have fun! If you stick with it, you will be rewarded!

David

On 17-Dec-07, at 9:27 AM, Douglas Kim Thompson wrote:

Thanks. Damn my iMac is the only one in the house with Leopard. I'm
beginning to think that I have wasted money by WO.

-Doug


Pascal Robert wrote:


Hi and welcome,

yes, WebObjects works with Leopard, but WO 5.4 has some bugs.  I
strongly suggest that you wait for WO 5.4.1 or, if you have access to
a Tiger machine, that you install WO 5.3 if you can't wait.

As for getting started, check out:

	http://www.wocommunity.org/getting_started_with_webobjects.html

and

	http://www.wocommunity.org/podcasts/WOLips_install_in_8_minutes.mov

and

	http://www.wocommunity.org/podcasts/WO54_Examples.mov

Hello all,

First, Happy Festivus.

Second, I have made the twenty year cut with PC/Windows and gone
full iMac.

Third, I have done a fair amount of web development with Adobe/
Macromedia software.

Fourth, I have now moved to WebObjects.

The questions:

First, does WebObjects work with Leopard.

Second, any tutorial or book recommendation would be most appreciated.

Cheerio, Doug
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