Re: WOBuilder in the future of WO?
Re: WOBuilder in the future of WO?
- Subject: Re: WOBuilder in the future of WO?
- From: Andrew Satori <email@hidden>
- Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 15:47:48 -0500
That's what I gathered, though from what I've heard/read, the real
meat of the transition is from XCode /PB Jam build tools to Ant, so
for editing / compiling, it looks like Xcode will continue to be a
viable option, which is good, since I don't like Eclipse (yes, I know
I'm definately in the minority here, but I much prefer platform
native applications, and while Ecplipse is better than most, it is
still not native, and has it's "I'm a Java Application" quirks that
irritate me, it's the same reason I never felt comfortable with
JBuilder on Windows. It's not that they are bad applications, far
from it, they just irritate me.
Editing and compiling the code is the easy part though. To me it
seems like WO is the App server (and libraries), EOModeler and
WOBuilder. Losing both EOModeler and WOBuilder, even in their
current buggy form seems like a huge loss. That begs the question,
is there a market for a replacement WOBuilder? and if so, what kind
of price point could it sustain? With WebKit's editing support, it
should be doable, but certainly not easy, since you'll have to be
able to parse and two-way edit the .java files.
I don't know, it just seems like a real loss to lose these apps...
Andy
On Jan 21, 2007, at 1:33 PM, Galen Rhodes wrote:
From the looks of it we're supposed to use Eclipse+WOLips.
I've played with it a little. Eclipse is VERY nice indeed but as
far as WOLips goes I am still largely unimpressed. It definitely
takes longer using the WOLips tools because they lack any form of
WYSIWYG editing. Even the WOLips EOModel editor appears to lack a
"Diagram View" which I find indispensable.
Perhaps these things will come to WOLips but my last 15 years of
experience with OpenSource does not leave me with much hope in
this. OpenSource projects tend to reach a "good enough" point and
then they stop progressing.
--
Galen Rhodes
email@hidden
"There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he
does not want merely because you think it would be good for him."
-- Robert Heinlein --
On Jan 21, 2007, at 1:21 PM, Andrew Satori wrote:
Alright, so with the official 'Java-Bridge is dead' status for the
future, what does this mean for WOBuilder and the graphical
creation of WOComponents?
As far as I can tell, that leaves editing the .wo bundles by
hand. While not impossible, it is certainly a step backwards, so
my question is, what is the rest of the community planning on
using in place of WOBuilder?
Andy
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