Re: WebObjects 5.3 Licensing Question (Again)
Re: WebObjects 5.3 Licensing Question (Again)
- Subject: Re: WebObjects 5.3 Licensing Question (Again)
- From: Dov Rosenberg <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:24:29 -0500
- Thread-topic: WebObjects 5.3 Licensing Question (Again)
Title: Re: WebObjects 5.3 Licensing Question (Again)
I have not come across any bugs in EOF that have caused us to contact Apple for support since 1997. I just want to make sure that I don’t tick off any of those lawyer types.
On 1/23/07 6:15 PM, "Ray Kiddy" <email@hidden> wrote:
On Jan 23, 2007, at 2:57 PM, Joshua Archer wrote:
Deployment of 5.3 is free and legal on any platform, using the developer key found inside of the webobjects foundation framework. I'm not certain why everyone's so squirrelly about giving straight answers on this one, but that's perhaps just part of the general Apple corporate culture. I've gotten from several sources inside Apple that it's cool to go ahead and deploy anywhere you like.
(n'est-ce pas?)
I think that the difficulty people have with this comes from varying meanings of the word "support".
People keep asking if deployment on other platforms is "supported". If support means that Apple is required to answer even one question you might have about deploying on Linux, the answer will probably be no.
Apple has not been hostile to seeing WO become useful on other platforms. They have been saying in various public fora that they want to interoperate with, for example, ant. If things are more compatible with ant, does this mean that use on other platforms is easier or harder? My guess is that it gets easier.
Look at the ant project types that the Java group has been putting out. Are they "supported" on Windows? Is this even a sensible or necessary question?
There is a customer base for which the definition of "support" is important. If you are going to be subject to Sarbanes-Oxley auditing and you have to document the "pedigree" and "right to use" of every single piece of your tool chain, then you should probably decide if Apple's license is acceptable to you. Perhaps you are in a federally-funded organization, or your shareholders are suing your management. But those people have lawyers that work for them who give them the answer to their questions.
Do you worry about Apple's interpretation of "support" in this context? Do you have a lawyer on staff that you can direct the question to? If not, maybe that should tell you something.
As for me, if I want to get a "no" answer to any question, I ask a lawyer. Otherwise, I do code.
- ray
On Jan 23, 2007, at 2:50 PM, Dov Rosenberg wrote:
I have been trying to figure out what if any licensing requirements are in place for WebObjects 5.3 applications deployed out as servlets on non OSX platforms. I assume that OSX platforms (at least OSX Server) have a valid WebObjects license on them.
The Apple software licensing site discussion ends at 5.2 (when WebObjects was embedded in with Xcode). I placed a call to the Apple Software Licensing group in Dallas and they were not very helpful at all. They told me to look at the Developer.apple.com site which contained no more information.
Is it safe to assume that any app developed with Xcode (or Eclipse using WOLips) is free from license fees? Most of our deployments are on non OSX platforms including (Windows, Linux, and Solaris).
I need some information ASAP. Thanks in advance.
--
Dov Rosenberg
Conviveon/Inquira
Knowledge Management Experts
http://www.conviveon.com
http://www.inquira.com
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