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Re: WebObjects documentation site


  • Subject: Re: WebObjects documentation site
  • From: Ian Joyner <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 10:58:01 +1000

Thanks Andrus, you'd be the guy to know. I see from the css that the fonts used are verdana and arial, both fonts that should be avoided, verdana for style and arial for the moral reason that it's a cheap rip off of helvetica so MS didn't have to pay licence fees.

http://www.xs4all.nl/~sbpoley/webmatters/verdana.html
http://www.ms-studio.com/articles.html
http://screenfont.ca/fonts/today/interim/Arial/

I'm beginning to think that what is needed (in general) is a local version of css, so that I have control over how styles display in my browser, but that's for another day.

Ian

On 03/07/2007, at 5:20 PM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:


On Jul 3, 2007, at 3:34 AM, Ian Joyner wrote:

I appreciate the effort to provide a better level of documentation at the objectstyle confluence site. However, I'd have to say, I like the look of the wikibook a lot better (even though it wastes space on the LHS). Is it possible to give a confluence site a better look, or is this locked into confluence?

Yes.

One way is to use auto-export plugin - you can achieve advanced custom formatting (and also improve rendering performance). Cayenne site for instance is 100% Confluence-based: http:// cayenne.apache.org/ The catch - auto-export plugin hasn't been upgraded yet to Confluence 2.5 API. But I am sure it will be at some point (and I may even try to reach the developers on that).

There's also a way to tweak live Confluence CSS. Unfortunately this has to be done on the server directly (see below)

One problem is the font. I think it is being killed by anti- aliasing making some characters look semi-bold (eg a, y, h) and thus ruining the reading experience. If I make the font size bigger (command-+), it does not look so bad, or smaller seems to get rid of the anti-aliasing. Does anyone know what font this is (can't see it in the "view source")? (Looks like some wacky Microsoft font.) Looks alright printed, although I'd rather a serif font for printed material.

Agreed about the fonts. Check the CSS attached to the page - the fonts are defined there. If somebody wants to design a better one, you can get the HTML sources from the site, tweak the CSS, and post the static mockup somewhere. If it looks good, I can load it to the server. Just do not reformat the CSS file too much, so that I could build a patch against current CSS, and use it for the future upgrades.


Andrus
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