Re: WOBuilder Replacement
Re: WOBuilder Replacement
- Subject: Re: WOBuilder Replacement
- From: Michael Warner <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 07:08:16 -0700
I believe that Gino is on the right track here. Having heard Mike
Schrag speak at WOWODC, I am sure that he and his associates
could create a wonderful (no pun intended) new WOBuilder. But for
reasons apart from the financing, such an effort seems ill-advised at
this time.
The main problem is the lack of a WO developer organization and lack
a formal relationship with Apple Inc. Through a combination of
genius, expertise, generosity
and sweat equity, certain individuals, including Mike Schrag, have
come into leadership roles on this list. But at this point that is
all there is, a list, an ad hoc network of
developers, and the ability to survey the opinions of this anarchic,
amorphous group. There is no clear idea how many of us there
are! Without a formal, dues-paying,
voting-for-officers organization, the group does not have the clout
that it could have.
I am NOT advocating the creation of a formal organization here.
Just pointing out
the obvious -- there is not one. And so, for example, when
creating a 'survey', you are never sure what the group is that your
are surveying. And if WO developers were more
formally organized then the organization as a whole could approach
Apple with more coherence and clout.
At some point, with organized WO developers having a collective voice
and funds to send their leadership to meet with Apple, some type of
written agreement might be drawn up between Apple and the developers,
such that Apple itself would be
intimately involved in guiding (and not inadvertently undermining)
the creation of something like a new WOBuilder. Would one really
want to invest 50K-100K in a product
so intimately connected to WO, without some type of formal
relationship with Apple?
Please don't take my specific wording of the above points too
seriously -- I am only trying to sketch, in a general sense, the
dilemma that we developers are in.
Mike W.
Can't Apple be persuaded to contribute a small development team
that worked with other WO Community members on this...
That might bring costs down and offer a soft landing for those of
us that like to use a GUI to components and interface design...
Gino
On 5 Jul 2007, at 14:03, Jeremy Matthews wrote:
Although I understand the speed and the ease of Eclipses' Editor,
I must admit that sometimes I miss WOBuilder...
I'd gladly pay $500 for a full WOBuilder Replacement...with or
without Entity Modeler bundled (Since Mike is working on that
anyways...)...maybe 2 licenses.
I might be able to swing more next year....
Now whether it integrates with Eclipse or not...well, I've seen
some nice things in Eclipse...but I'm willing to hear it out.
Thanks,
j
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